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Lace Neil Singer
07-26-2009, 11:26 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202080/Vile-lies-woman-jailed-making-ex-boyfriends-life-hell-accusing-rape.html

While it's true that rape is a horrifying crime, what of women who cry rape, telling lies about exes or men who rejected them? Since the accused is always named, that leaves a stigma that is hard to shake off; why should an innocent man have to deal with that? Should both be anonymous til after the court case?

BroomJockey
07-26-2009, 01:35 PM
Should both be anonymous til after the court case?

I think they've tried to maintain anonymity for people on trial before, and it pretty much never works. Someone somewhere talks to a blogger, or a news reporter from another city/province/country spills the beans in their venue, etc etc etc.

kibbles
07-26-2009, 04:55 PM
I think either both (accused and accusor) should be named or names withheld. Personally, I think both names should be withheld (especially considering cases of false accusations).

Boozy
07-26-2009, 07:14 PM
It's an interesting question, and I've never been able to make my mind up either way.

I understand both sides. On one hand, freedom of the press and the public's right to know. On the other, serious privacy concerns of potentially innocent victims (both the accused and the accuser). Constitutionally, freedom of information comes before right to privacy. But I don't know if I necessarily agree with that.

DesignFox
07-26-2009, 08:20 PM
This harpy deserves more jail time than she's receiving. In fact, I think she should serve the same sentence this innocent man would have faced had he been found guilty.

Thankfully, the courts did their job and this poor guy will have his record cleaned.

What burns me up is that the damage is done, anyway. This poor guy will never have a "normal" life thanks to that wench. Not to mention all the time and resources she wasted and potential attention she stole from ACTUAL victims of rape.

Because of all of this, she should receive mandatory mental health evaluations and counseling.

If I didn't think a group of people might lynch her, I'd say her name and photo should be plastered all over the paper just like the poor innocent man whose life she nearly ruined. Then again, what kind of hell did this poor guy go through before it was proven that he was innocent? Maybe she deserves some of public ridicule that would come from having her photo plastered on the front page.

:mad:

daleduke17
07-26-2009, 08:26 PM
If I didn't think a group of people might lynch her, I'd say her name and photo should be plastered all over the paper just like the poor innocent man whose life she nearly ruined. Then again, what kind of hell did this poor guy go through before it was proven that he was innocent? Maybe she deserves some of public ridicule that would come from having her photo plastered on the front page.

:mad:

Well, she's not a victim anymore, she's a criminal. Name her, show her picture and that be her punishment.

powerboy
07-26-2009, 09:37 PM
What burns me up is that the damage is done, anyway. This poor guy will never have a "normal" life thanks to that wench.




Exactly. All because she was pissed that she got dumped. His life will never be normal. His slate is clean. But then again, because he got accused of it. People will question it. I am curious as if he gets his job back

tabbyblack13
07-26-2009, 10:05 PM
This story is why some people don't believe in rape. I highly doubt that this is the first time any woman has ever done this. If you are angry that your boyfriend splits with you then bad talk him.

She should repay the taxpayers every cent that she wasted. I'm also thinking that she should have to pay something to the poor guy she accused.

Lace Neil Singer
07-26-2009, 10:43 PM
I think they've tried to maintain anonymity for people on trial before, and it pretty much never works. Someone somewhere talks to a blogger, or a news reporter from another city/province/country spills the beans in their venue, etc etc etc.

People don't do that with the victim, that's why it should be equal for both. If a paper prints a picture of a rape victim, then they will get the book thrown at them.

anriana
07-26-2009, 10:59 PM
"He has since been reinstated to his job"



And am I reading it incorrectly, or is that headline not written properly? Shouldn't it be "Woman who told 'vile lies?' " The way it's written now "'Vile lies'" is the subject that was jailed.

DesignFox
07-26-2009, 11:16 PM
The reason they generally don't show photos of a rape victim are related to the stigmas attached to having been raped.

Just read that thread about that poor 8 year old and that says it all.

It isn't right by any means, but that's the way it is. I could also understand some genuine victims not wanting their face posted around, and I could think of multiple reasons for that.

In this case, this woman is the criminal. So, I think perhaps her face should be shown.

Greenday
07-26-2009, 11:37 PM
I don't get it. Everyone talks about those stigmas attached to women who are raped. What is this supposed stigma? I've never actually known any women who were raped that received such a stigma.

DesignFox
07-26-2009, 11:50 PM
I can't say for sure, because no one I know has come out and told me that they've been a victim.

I just know what happened to that 8 year old, what currently happens to women in..shall we say, less developed, parts of the world, and what has happened to women in the past.

I have also known at least one guy who said he would not want to deal with a woman who was carrying that kind of "emotional baggage."

I dunno. Maybe some people would feel embarrassed by it- not so much because they are a victim, but maybe they don't want people reminding them of it all the time. Sympathetic looks, words...etc. Could get tiring if random people were giving you that kind of "pity" look.

Right, wrong or indifferent- these are some of the reasons I can see for a victim not to want their identity revealed to the public.

Peppergirl
07-27-2009, 12:42 AM
This bitch oughta have the book thrown at her.


That is all.

BroomJockey
07-27-2009, 01:13 AM
is that headline not written properly?

They rarely are.

Lace Neil Singer
07-27-2009, 06:31 PM
There's also a stigma that comes of being accused of rape; which is all well and good if you're talking about a guilty person, but why should an innocent person suffer thru all that?

Rapscallion
07-27-2009, 07:25 PM
Must admit, the current UK situation of accused being named and not the accuser in such cases goes against the tradition of innocent until proven guilty - the court may find someone not guilty, but the press-enraged general public won't.

Rapscallion

Tanasi
07-27-2009, 09:19 PM
Within the last few months locally a Georgia man was arrested for kid-napping and rape of woman also from GA. She was rescued by the police after having been altered by a pizza delivery man. She said he forced her into his car and then drove her from Atlanta to Pigeon Forge, TN and raped her several times. Well it turned out that he thought is was fastisy role-playing and didn't know she had the habit of filing false police reports regarding rape.

Don't for the Duke Lacross team. It's lucky for those boys their parents had money to defend them.

Arcade Man D
07-28-2009, 04:41 PM
This bitch oughta have the book thrown at her.


That is all.

I personally believe that anyone convicted of knowingly filing a false police report, and who presses charges, should be subject to the exact same punishments as their victim would have been subject to were they convicted.

Flyndaran
07-28-2009, 08:48 PM
I personally believe that anyone convicted of knowingly filing a false police report, and who presses charges, should be subject to the exact same punishments as their victim would have been subject to were they convicted.

I somewhat agree, but can you imagine someone getting life for pathologically lying about murdered babies?

Arcade Man D
07-28-2009, 10:26 PM
I somewhat agree, but can you imagine someone getting life for pathologically lying about murdered babies?

I believe pathological liars would fall under an insanity plea. Perhaps this would actually get them the psychiatric help they need if they truly are pathological liars.

Flyndaran
07-29-2009, 01:39 AM
I believe pathological liars would fall under an insanity plea. Perhaps this would actually get them the psychiatric help they need if they truly are pathological liars.

The one that I know is simply dismissed by the police. She has calmed down since having a kid, but she still stands by some past nonsense.

Lace Neil Singer
07-29-2009, 11:35 AM
Lying about murdered babies is a bit different than crying rape; doing that has the potential to ruin a person's life, therefore should carry a considerable sentence. This woman could be out in a year and busily ruining another guy's reputation. She should be named and shamed.

tropicsgoddess
08-01-2009, 07:51 PM
That is just incredibly vile and spiteful. I hope that judge throws the book at that bitch for what she did. That's a serious accusation to make against somebody and to do it just out of sheer spite is just incredibly wrong! :mad::mad: I feel really bad for the poor man how his life has been made into a huge nightmare because of that bitch and it'll take a lot to get things back to normal or at least close to it.

guywithashovel
08-02-2009, 03:55 AM
I don't get it. Everyone talks about those stigmas attached to women who are raped. What is this supposed stigma? I've never actually known any women who were raped that received such a stigma.

In addition to what others have said, there are some people out there who like to blame the victims. If they hear a story about a girl getting raped, they'll say that it was because she was wearing clothes that were too revealing, because she was at a wild party, or some other reason that is "her fault." One time, there was a story on TV about a rapist, and this guy nabbed one of his victims while she was out jogging after dark, and while jogging, she was wearing a pair of shorts and a tank top. Well, someone else in the room with me pretty much blamed it on her since she was out after dark and wearing a tank top and pair of shorts.

Granted, people should take precautions in order to take care of themselves, but rape should never be blamed on the victim.

Flyndaran
08-02-2009, 04:35 AM
... Well, someone else in the room with me pretty much blamed it on her since she was out after dark and wearing a tank top and pair of shorts.

Granted, people should take precautions in order to take care of themselves, but rape should never be blamed on the victim.

What happened after you shoved the person's head up their ass?
A woman has the right to jog naked and not get attacked.