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HEMI6point1
04-09-2010, 04:13 AM
1. You like UK/European models better, therefore you must hate all American women!

Lucy Pinder, Michelle Marsh, Lindsey Strutt, Amiee Rickards, Bryoni-Kate Williams, Carole Hunt, Nikki Friend, Jodie Gasson, Beau White (search Beau White Purestorm), Ivy Nedkova, Ruby Jones, Jenny Baker, Nadia Alkhashab, Georgina Darby. And more I'm forgetting right now.

So, what do those women have in common? They're all beautiful UK glamour models. And I like them so much better than almost all models that are here in the US. Why? They don't like they're going to fall over and die any moment due to lack of nourishment. In other words, they are curvy and chesty and look like they eat real foods.

Of course, people I know will tell me "Well if you hate American women so much, move to the UK then!" This is stupid. Because they need to realize I was talking about models, not non-famous regular women. There are plenty of beautiful, healthy-looking women in the US that aren't part of the modeling sector. Models in the US are pressured to be stick-thin, and whoever is in charge need to realize that men like curves, not skin and bones.

PS if you're going to do a google web/image search on those models - wait 'til you're at home, many links are NSFW! But you'll see why I like them. ;)

2. You bought a Korean brand car? You're a hypocrite!

I said in another post I recently bought a Hyundai Sonata V6. It's a great car. I had to do something as my Sable was becoming a rolling repair bill.

Of course, people are calling me hypocrite because I always had a "buy American" stance when it comes to automobiles. I am getting flack from these people because I bought a "foreign" car.

I bought it because it was only car in my price range that had low mileage, a V6, less than 3 years old and was built in America. That's right, built in America. And no, Toyota was not on my list because they're now deathtraps. Plus my budget would only allow for a 4-cylinder 'yota.

Starting in 2006 V6 Sonatas are made in Montgomery, Alabama (and ALL Sonatas starting in 2011). By American factory workers. By contrast, the Ford Fusion is made in Mexico. My favorite car, the Dodge Challenger, is made in Canada with a Mexican engine and a German transmission.

So in essence, I did buy American.

3. You don't have the best luck getting women? Well then you're not allowed to have preferences! But yet for women it's okay....

I was talking to a guy a know some time ago and got to talking about certain preferences when it comes to the opposite sex. This person knows I always tend to go for the bustier women (I don't know why, but I've always gravitated to girls with bigger boobs). Well I made a comment "I would have a tough time being attracted to a girl if she had less than a C cup." This guy then proceeded to call me a "boobist."

I asked him, "you don't like brunettes, should I call you a hairist?" He said, "I don't have trouble getting women like you do. When you have a preference like that, people are going to get on your case for it."

I believe that all humans are wired to be attracted to certain attributes in a mate, male or female. Some guys like shorter women, some guys like blonde hair, some (like me) go for bigger boobs. Same for women - some will not date guys that are balding or are short. But even if a woman has not been on a date in 3 years, that's all okay. If a guy has bad luck and his preferences rule out certain women, then it's a bad thing.

No matter what a man's dating situation is, he should not feel like giving up something he wants in a partner. Because it's not healthy.

Another thing is race. I knew a white woman once who said that she would only go out with white Italian men. Nothing was said. I made a mention that even though I find black girls or arabic girls pretty, they're just not my type enough to date. Well I got called a "racist" for this (never mind that Arab isn't even a race), more than once. How is it that a woman can say that a certain ethnic group is not her type, but a man can't?

As I said before, it's not healthy for anyone to force an attraction to someone that they wouldn't normally go out with. Even if they have bad luck in the dating world.

4. Blocking ads? You're stealing money and bandwidth!

I'm continuing this from CS. In that thread someone commented that blocking ads is stealing money and bandwidth.

I leave my ad and script blockers (Adblock Plus and NoScript) enabled at all times, unless a site I'm visiting requires I turn them off and the content (ads included) is legit. Saying I'm "stealing money and bandwidth" is a bit silly as I can probably count how many times on my hand I have clicked on banner ads since I started surfing the web back in 1999. The rest of the time, I have ignored them.

Plus, nowadays it's more of a safety issue than a convenience issue. Sure having those items enabled speeds up page loads but since I have started using them I have not caught a virus/malware once. I do update my virus scanner and renew it when it's time but have never had to actually use it.

Consider this:

1. Even legit websites that police their ads display a rogue banner ad from time to time. The Wall Street Journal incident was one of the more famous (or really infamous) ones.
2. On the other hand, even if the site is legit, they may not care about what ads are showing up on their page as long as they are getting paid.
3. Merely viewing a page with a rogue banner ad can get you infected. That's because that ad could be injected with malicious code that is designed to do a "drive by" install of malware or bring up a popup that even if you click "cancel" it takes that as an OK to download the malware to your system. All this and you don't even have to click on the ad.

So it's either the site in question makes a penny off me or I keep my computer clean. I'll take the latter thank you very much. Oh, Firefox (the browser I use) has less than a 25% market share. Less than 10% of Firefox users probably know about Adblock Plus. Even less for NoScript. So I doubt the select people who are using these programs are really taking a big dent in the website's coffers.

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Annnnnnnnnnnnnd rest. Sorry it took so long.

Rapscallion
04-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Only two things I can suggest here.

First of all, there are plenty of ladies with large chests in the US. Been there, seen that, shrugged.

Second, last time I looked at the CS stats, between forty and fifty percent of visits were from Firefox.

Rapscallion

DrFaroohk
04-09-2010, 12:55 PM
You can tell what web browser we're using? What else do you know!? WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU!? lol...seriously tho, how much info do you get?

telecom_goddess
04-09-2010, 01:32 PM
You can tell what web browser we're using? What else do you know!? WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU!? lol...seriously tho, how much info do you get?

He should be able to tell what browser you're using, what ip you came from, what country you're in, whether you went to it directly or off a link....you'd be amazed at the electronic trail you leave :o

I have a domain and can view stats like that myself, pretty cool.

Talon
04-09-2010, 04:18 PM
They're all beautiful UK glamour models. And I like them so much better than almost all models that are here in the US. Why? They don't like they're going to fall over and die any moment due to lack of nourishment. In other words, they are curvy and chesty and look like they eat real foods.

Quoted and bolded for truth.

Well I made a comment "I would have a tough time being attracted to a girl if she had less than a C cup." This guy then proceeded to call me a "boobist."

I asked him, "you don't like brunettes, should I call you a hairist?"

Hey I'm a legs and ass man, does that make me a "leggist" and an "assist"?
Oh and great comeback :)

AdminAssistant
04-09-2010, 04:32 PM
Models in the US are pressured to be stick-thin, and whoever is in charge need to realize that men like curves, not skin and bones.

*snip*

Well I made a comment "I would have a tough time being attracted to a girl if she had less than a C cup." ...I believe that all humans are wired to be attracted to certain attributes in a mate, male or female.

You know...I find that when most people say they like "curvy" women, they mean, "A woman who is very thin but also has a huge rack and J.Lo's ass." I mean, I'm 'curvy.' I got all kinds of curves! Unfortunately, I guess I curve the wrong way in the wrong places for most guys.

I really don't believe in ruling someone out because of a single physical feature. I've dated tall and short (as in shorter than me, and I'm 5'3"), thin and heavy, light and dark hair. I'm not super attracted to redheads in general, but if I were single and one approached me and was sweet, funny, and nice...yeah, I'd probably at least chat with him. My current SO is, well, tubby. And I've always had a thing about teeth - his front two are crooked and overlap. And he is the sexiest thing in the world, to me. If I had ruled him out because of those things, I'd never know how amazing he is as a person.

And, frankly, a straight male saying, "I only like women with large/nice breasts"....I mean, yeah. Of course. D'oh. But how would guys feel if more women said, "Oh, I'll only date guys with schlongs 8 inches or longer. I'm a penisist."

Rapscallion
04-09-2010, 04:37 PM
And, frankly, a straight male saying, "I only like women with large/nice breasts"....I mean, yeah. Of course. D'oh. But how would guys feel if more women said, "Oh, I'll only date guys with schlongs 8 inches or longer. I'm a penisist."

Well, according to my inbox, then...

Rapscallion

blas87
04-09-2010, 04:42 PM
I don't mean to be offensive or rude, but "full figured" and "curvy" terms were used to describe women like Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield...women who were thin but with larger chests, small waists, large hips and a nice rear end.

Nowadays, it seems to have become a term for overweight women or plus size models. Sure, you don't have to have a small waist and a flat tummy to be considered curvy, but there is a difference between Kim Kardashian and a girl who is 5 feet tall and 200 pounds.

I'll also probably get flack for this too, but I've always felt that anyone who doesn't have much going for them as far as physical looks goes, really can't be picky. Sorry to be so rude, but it's how I feel.

My boyfriend's friends are good examples. He has two friends in particular who are quite short for guys, one is 5'4 and the other maybe 5'5. Both of them are quick to point out "fat chicks" and rip on them, even though they themselves may be skinny guys, they are short, and that's something a lot of girls will pick on guys about. The shorter of the two also has a medical condition where he is losing his hair at a really rapid rate (it's not generic male pattern balding, it's alopecia *sp?*) and he is so quick to point out any flaw in a girl that may god forbid make her NOT perfect, yet he looks like a freak always wearing a hat to cover his few patches of hair he has left.

So there's my evidence. I also know of some less fortunate looking girls who are just as picky about guys, and they really have no right to be.

Nyoibo
04-09-2010, 06:15 PM
I got over the picky thing and would have been happy to get any woman to notice me, but as it seems I'm too ...(insert what ever the fuck it is, I don't know)... to even think of being anything but maybe a friend I've gone back to pointing out others flaws and being a cynical mean bastard.

blas87
04-09-2010, 06:31 PM
I think it's human nature to point out flaws in others, as long as you can point out your own as well.

HEMI6point1
04-10-2010, 12:51 AM
I don't mean to be offensive or rude, but "full figured" and "curvy" terms were used to describe women like Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield...women who were thin but with larger chests, small waists, large hips and a nice rear end.

Nowadays, it seems to have become a term for overweight women or plus size models. Sure, you don't have to have a small waist and a flat tummy to be considered curvy, but there is a difference between Kim Kardashian and a girl who is 5 feet tall and 200 pounds.

I'll also probably get flack for this too, but I've always felt that anyone who doesn't have much going for them as far as physical looks goes, really can't be picky. Sorry to be so rude, but it's how I feel.

As far as I know curvy can be used to describe two difference things and a man's definition of curvy is usually different than a woman's: If a man says a girl is curvy it means an hourglass figure and a large bust. IE Kim Kardashian or Lucy Pinder. If a woman says she's curvy it almost always means she needs to go on a diet and start going to the gym. Note: I said "almost always" because there are some women who actually refer to themselves as "curvy" like a man would.

BTW there are some plus-size models that are actually quite hot. Many look better than the normal skin-and-bones runway models.

As far as "picky" goes, I'm no Brad Pitt but I'm not dog meat either. It depends what you are describing by saying "picky." I don't think I'm picky by saying I am attracted to bustier women. I always have been and that's not going to change. Now, if I said "For me to date her a woman must have a tiny waist, natural DD cups, long hair and a face from heaven," now THAT is being picky!

I think it's human nature to point out flaws in others, as long as you can point out your own as well.

I agree.

My hair is receding (hereditary) and people tell me to grow it out, but I can't because I have a medical condition that prevents me from doing it. Plus I can't go bald because I have birthmarks that if exposed would make me look like someone beat me over the head.

AdminAssistant
04-10-2010, 01:03 AM
If a woman says she's curvy it almost always means she needs to go on a diet and start going to the gym.

BTW there are some plus-size models that are actually quite hot. Many look better than the normal skin-and-bones runway models.

Wait....these plus-sized models don't need to go on a diet and start going to the gym? BTW, most "plus-sized" models are about a size 12.

Lace Neil Singer
04-10-2010, 01:13 AM
You can tell what web browser we're using? What else do you know!? WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU!? lol...seriously tho, how much info do you get?

Raps knows where you live. :lol:

As for "plus sized models"; some people in the fashion industry consider any girl over a size 10 as being "plus sized". I don't see that as being a healthy viewpoint at all.

KitterCat
04-10-2010, 01:27 AM
Another thing is race. I knew a white woman once who said that she would only go out with white Italian men. Nothing was said. I made a mention that even though I find black girls or arabic girls pretty, they're just not my type enough to date. Well I got called a "racist" for this (never mind that Arab isn't even a race), more than once. How is it that a woman can say that a certain ethnic group is not her type, but a man can't?

As I said before, it's not healthy for anyone to force an attraction to someone that they wouldn't normally go out with. Even if they have bad luck in the dating world.

Guys aren’t the only ones who get hit with the racist card when it comes to attraction. I’ve had it pulled on myself, as well as some of my friends. Usually by other women from an opposite races as well.

It always confused me, since I would think that if ones not attracted to a different race that’s being asked about that would leave more options for them to choose from with out having to worry about yet another person going after the same guy. -as confusing as that sounds. Of course I’m also married and out of the dating game entirely.

Plaidman
04-10-2010, 02:14 AM
I'm greatly attracted to smart woman.

Sadily, that means any woman I'm attracted to is smart enough to not date me.

So yeah... I really have zero options for dates. Really sucks. -_-.

Not to mention, I have enough flaws both physically and personally, that only an insane woman would consider dating me.

IDrinkaRum
04-10-2010, 02:28 AM
I'm 5'3" and 292 pounds - I'm fat.

I don't call myself fat.

I say I'm voluptuous.

The definition of a voluptuous woman is this:

A voluptuous woman is a woman with curves in places where most women don't have places.

:D

I've had men tell me I'm fat. (I'm married, my husband likes my body, why should I care what those men think?)

I've had men tell me I'm absolutely gorgeous.

And I've had men tell me I'm too skinny. :confused: (I think they're fat or chubby chasers).

Plaidman
04-10-2010, 02:42 AM
I think your beauitful Rum! (Though I thought you looked better with the longer hair )

That, and the pimp hat. Gotta love the feathers.

AdminAssistant
04-10-2010, 03:00 AM
I've had men tell me I'm fat. (I'm married, my husband likes my body, why should I care what those men think?)

I've had men tell me I'm absolutely gorgeous.

I'm 5'3" and 207 pounds. I'm pretty voluptuous myself, Rum. But my SO loves my body and thinks I'm beautiful. And it has taken literally months for him to convince me that, yeah, maybe I'm not so bad. Maybe I'm not just a fat, ugly pig that needs to go to the gym and exercise.

I would like to get healthy, understand this. But I don't see a need to kill myself to force my body into a socially acceptable shape.

Plaidman
04-10-2010, 03:09 AM
I would like to get healthy, understand this. But I don't see a need to kill myself to force my body into a socially acceptable shape.

Good thinking. I don't have the hip power to chase after you and kick your butt, though likely you'd just laugh at my feeble attempt.

Now group hugs for all! YAY! :)

flybye023
04-10-2010, 03:26 AM
I would like to get healthy, understand this. But I don't see a need to kill myself to force my body into a socially acceptable shape.

I'm 5'2, 200 pounds. I wouldn't mind starting an exercise program just to get healthy, not necessarily to lose weight ( though, of course, that would happen). I actually gained 40 pounds within the last couple of years. I wasn't real happy about that at first but then I learned something that I will be grateful for even if I lose that 40 pounds.

What I learned was that the problem areas I had when I was a size 10-12 are still here. Even if I lose weight and get back down to those sizes again, my problem areas will still be there. So, I have decided they're not problem areas--they're just me :)

As far as characteristics that I find attractive, I agree with the OP that we are just wired to like certain things. I find dark hair and eyes to be something that draws my attention every time over other things. I also prefer clean-shaven men. However, if I found a man that shared my values, was intelligent, kind, etc. I wouldn't turn him down/ignore him just because he was blond and blue-eyed with a goatee :p

Plaidman
04-10-2010, 03:29 AM
However, if I found a man that shared my values, was intelligent, kind, etc. I wouldn't turn him down/ignore him just because he was blond and blue-eyed with a goatee :p

But you draw the line on full beards....

Fryk
04-10-2010, 05:00 AM
Flybye is a beardist!!!!

I find that what attracts me is really REALLY hard to explain. First of all, like the Man in Plaid, I lust for intellect, as well as weird sense of humor. Second, the weird part, is proportionality. If you carry whatever you have well, that makes it for me. Women who are top heavy, or extreme hourglasses, overly large looking heads (a big thing for me, even I don't get it), if it stands out too much, it just sorta turns me off. The next things is eyes. And I can't even try to explain what attracts me to someone's eyes, I just know it when I see it.
My wife has everything I would want, physically and mentally. I could give a flaming bowel movement of lava what anyone else would think about her looks. She's just IT, like Coke used to be.

Lace Neil Singer
04-10-2010, 10:58 AM
My body shape means that I could never be the stick thin ideal of fashion and film. I have a big bust and big hips. My boyf loves my curves and I've had loads of guys say that I'm beautiful. I've had a few call me a fat cow or fat bitch, but they're always immature men who seem to think that all women should look like Page 3 girls. :rolleyes:

blas87
04-10-2010, 08:22 PM
I was called "overweight" by a modeling agency, and I was 110 lbs. And 14 years old.

And people wonder why to this day I still have body image issues.

HYHYBT
04-11-2010, 12:23 AM
I can't go bald because I have birthmarks that if exposed would make me look like someone beat me over the head.I know what you meant, but as worded, this just begs for pointing out: birthmarks, sadly, will not stop you from going bald. They'll just make you funnier-looking when you get there.

Plaidman
04-11-2010, 02:10 AM
I know what you meant, but as worded, this just begs for pointing out: birthmarks, sadly, will not stop you from going bald. They'll just make you funnier-looking when you get there.

? As worded I get the sense that if he were to go bald, it'll look like he been beaten.

Same way here. I have a huuuuuuuuuuge ass tumor on my front of my head, and two more growing in the back. I keep my hair long to hide them.

lupo pazzesco
04-11-2010, 04:33 AM
It's a double standard no matter which way you look. People like what they like. What I find sad is the fact that some people will judge others as prejudice while they themselves have some inner criteria they either don't acknowledge or admit to, or think they're "normal."

In my case, I'm 6'0 tall. I personally would like someone as tall as, if not taller than me. I've also been told that I'm too fat to be picky, and too plain to worry about that. (again, 6'0 tall, and about 258 lbs.). I'm pear-shaped, so it's also been pointed out my proportions aren't great. I will admit I've been, for the last year, working on a fitness plan, and have lost 52 lbs, but it's because I want to be healthy, not "perfect".

Another deal breaker for me would be lack of intelligence. I see so many guys who act like they're 12, that it's a huge turn off. And again, I'm told (this is all from the same person, mind you...), that if I can't accept that all men are immature then I'm going to be a virgin for the rest of my life, and it's no wonder I've never had a boyfriend or been on a date.

Hmm, methinks I've done enough babbling. Not sure I really had a point in there. Sorry... :(

MaggieTheCat
04-11-2010, 06:55 AM
And again, I'm told (this is all from the same person, mind you...), that if I can't accept that all men are immature then I'm going to be a virgin for the rest of my life, and it's no wonder I've never had a boyfriend or been on a date.


Bullshit. Guys may tend to be more immature than ladies of the same age, but that doesn't mean all of them are. My husband has always been very mature. I've known him since he was about 15, and he was mature back then. He wasn't some punky teenager who liked to act like an ass and got in trouble. He's always been quiet and a little on the shy side, but not to the point of being antisocial. Sure, we act silly sometimes when we're together, but it's all in good fun. I've often referred to him as "the sophisticated geek."

I think guys like him are hard to come by, but they do exist. Don't lower your expectations just because someone tries to lump the entire male gender into one category. :rolleyes:

Racket_Man
04-11-2010, 09:21 AM
Run and AdminAssistant

you ladies sound like the body type my Ex had when we first met. but then I actually paid attention to her personality, mind, sense of humor and her intelligence.

even though I was weaned on stick models/perfect body perceptions in the 60's and 70's, all of the women I have dated/had a relationship with tend to NOT be of that body type. they tended to be your everyday ordinary women. in other words women with non standard non stick model looks and body types that had curves and "flaws" (a general term mean not "perfect")

Yeah yeah I know that one looks for prefection but like beauty it is in the eye of the beholder and some beholders have very stupid requirements

hey if you want to be a "cubbie" or stick model or big boobie or great ass or great leg chaser go for it, but remember becareful of what you wish for you just might get it.