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tropicsgoddess
08-04-2008, 03:39 AM
John Mc Cain's campaign made an ad attacking Barack Obama and comparing him to celebrities like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton. Do you think that his is helping or hurting Mc Cain in the race?

Here's the video on YouTube. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c0vctCfhH8)

AFPheonix
08-04-2008, 06:04 AM
Eh. To the people he's pandering to, it's probably absolute genius. But then, these are the people who like to listen to Sean Hannity railing against Obama because "we don't know anything about him", rather than taking things into their own hands and researching for themselves.
To most normal people, it rates a shrug and and eyeroll, because heaven help us that someone who's popular be a leader. It makes about as much sense as charges levelled that Obama spends too much time in the gym or eats too healthy. Heaven forbid we should have a healthy candidate.
And then there's the whackjobs on the far left who are labelling it as racist, but then those are the types of people who look for racism under every rock.

Rapscallion
08-04-2008, 08:53 AM
One thing I learned about mudslinging is that some always sticks to the person throwing it. The critical style of American campaigning is very different to what we get over here, or at least what we used to get - I've not watched a political broadcast over here for some years. Ours never used to be personal on that level.

Another thing I learned is that it's addictive.

Rapscallion

Greenday
08-04-2008, 12:09 PM
I find mudslinging hilarious and amusing. It's the biggest, most obvious load of crap ever. Half the stuff they say just sounds so ridiculous. One thing that gets to me is all these Republicans that keep mentioning that Obama has the name Hussein in his full name. And...that means what? Oh, that's right, nothing! Or other stupid phrases like "The only difference between Obama and Osama is a lil bit of bs." It's not that witty. Obama and Osama are nothing like a like. You have to be of negative IQ to actually think they have something to do with each other because their names are one letter off. Morons...

Saydrah
08-04-2008, 04:17 PM
http://www.allvoices.com/image/15431212

this is all I have to say on the matter.

AFPheonix
08-04-2008, 05:36 PM
You also have to consider how absurd the charge is since the Republican Holy Grail of presidents is Reagan. A former movie star.
The irony is pretty delicious.

BlaqueKatt
08-09-2008, 05:27 AM
actually what I find amusing is that McCain will not openly discuss his religion, while Obama announces it every chance he gets. When Republicans say anything about religion you get eyerolls and "here we go again" but now that it's a Democrat we get to hear "how refreshing it is for a candidate to embrace his religion"

I hate hypocrisy.

Boozy
08-09-2008, 11:48 AM
The Democrats have smartened up. There's a huge evangelical voter base out there, and finally the Dems aren't ignoring them. This is what will win it for them. They only need to peel off a few of these Christians and those swing states are theirs.

It's a shame, but it's how it is. I don't think religion has any place in government or politics whatsoever, so I'm about as appalled by Obama's discussion of it as I would be by any Republican's. But I understand it's America, and flapping one's gums about Jesus plays to the masses.

Amethyst Hunter
08-10-2008, 02:51 AM
Desperate these days, isn't he. :rolleyes:

powerboy
08-10-2008, 06:59 AM
It doesn't matter what they say about each other. I am still going to vote for (insert name here) anyway.:D

Giggle Goose
08-13-2008, 03:15 AM
At first I thought they only had the one ad that TG showed with Paris and Britney; but now there's another!

Looks like the "celebrity" gimmick is here to stay; even with all the protests from people like Paris Hilton's mom. Who gave money to John McCain. November can't come soon enough....

Arcade Man D
08-20-2008, 01:39 PM
It doesn't matter what they say about each other. I am still going to vote for Nader anyway.:D

Really?





Sorry, couldn't help it :D

blas87
08-26-2008, 12:47 AM
All this "Obama is just a celebrity" propoganda is making me want to make an anti-McCain ad that goes like this:

War Veteran? Yes. Older and wiser? Yes. More experienced? Yes......but can he live out an entire presidential term? No......

Vote for the one who won't kick the bucket after hearing the news.......

AdminAssistant
08-26-2008, 04:51 AM
Honestly, at this point, most people have probably decided who they are going to vote for. The biggest unknown now is McCain's running mate (please NOT Huckabee. Please?) Because, as has been stated so often, the guy's kinda old. It is possible (but sad) that if elected, McCain might not make it to the end of his term. So he's got to pick a VP equally capable of running the country, should the unfortunate happen.

But..to the ad, so they're saying Obama is a handsome, likeable guy constantly in the eyes of the press? Which makes him a celebrity. But JFK (also handsome and likeable) is largely considered one of the greatest Presidents of all time.

hmmmmmm

Giggle Goose
08-26-2008, 01:45 PM
But..to the ad, so they're saying Obama is a handsome, likeable guy constantly in the eyes of the press? Which makes him a celebrity. But JFK (also handsome and likeable) is largely considered one of the greatest Presidents of all time.

hmmmmmm

Haha. Yes, how DARE the leader of the free world be articulate and likeable???!!! :rolleyes:

blas87
08-26-2008, 02:18 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but wasn't Reagan a celebrity?

And yes, I will concur with the JFK thing. Quite undeniably the most attractive president we have ever had, unless Obama wins. Obama is also from VERY simple roots. Obama KNOWS what it's like to be poor. He knows how it feels to not be able to afford health care, to not be able to go to college or help your kids go to college. Obama's fricken MOTHER couldn't afford insurance and refused to go to the doctor........does McCain know of anything like that?

I am so sick of the "Obama is a stupid celebrity and not president material" crap. And I am SO SICK of the mud slinging ads against him.

Unfortunately, Wisconsin is buying into this McCain crap and I'm terrifed we'll spend another 4 years with a Republican president whose only interest is special interest.

Giggle Goose
08-27-2008, 06:58 PM
Obama's fricken MOTHER couldn't afford insurance and refused to go to the doctor........does McCain know of anything like that?


Hey, hey, now! He has eight homes to maintain! John McCain knows what it's like to struggle! :p Sorry, cheap shot; I couldn't help it!

EmiOfBrie
08-28-2008, 12:08 AM
It's one thing for a candidate to say he's religious....it's quite another for one that constantly lets religion dictate policy. One can be religious while realizing that it has no place in law

daleduke17
08-28-2008, 10:17 AM
It's one thing for a candidate to say he's religious....it's quite another for one that constantly lets religion dictate policy. One can be religious while realizing that it has no place in law

I don't see why the candidate's religious background comes into play during the election time. Holy shit, Romney is Mormon. Big deal. Hell, if there was a candidate that belonged to the Church of Joe Pesci or the First United Church of the Fonz, it wouldn't matter (but it would be really f'n cool, wouldn't it?).

Separation of church and state. If there can't be a national church, then it shouldn't matter what religion a candidate is. Remember, Hitler was a Christian and Abraham Lincoln had no affiliation to any religion.

CancelMyService
08-29-2008, 01:12 AM
I don't see why the candidate's religious background comes into play during the election time. Holy shit, Romney is Mormon. Big deal. Hell, if there was a candidate that belonged to the Church of Joe Pesci or the First United Church of the Fonz, it wouldn't matter (but it would be really f'n cool, wouldn't it?).

Separation of church and state. If there can't be a national church, then it shouldn't matter what religion a candidate is. Remember, Hitler was a Christian and Abraham Lincoln had no affiliation to any religion.



It shouldn't matter what someone's religious background is, but it does and it has ever since the Evangelical Christians took over the GOP. Now in order to pass muster with them you have to not only have the right beliefs you have to belong to the right church.