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Lace Neil Singer
12-19-2008, 09:51 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28269290/

Sorry if I appear to be a horrible cynic, but I smell attention seeker with this kid's parents. Why else would parents call their kids such names? In any case, he could easily have asked for the cake to have "Happy Birthday Adolf" only on it, and inscribe it with balloons.

AFPheonix
12-19-2008, 11:05 PM
That's just it. How many people do you know, especially children, who get their full names on birthday cakes? It was done just to see how many buttons the parents could push.
The parents are moronic to start, and now that they've drawn even more attention to themselves I really hope they start getting some serious negative attention pointed their way.

Further, I'm surprised that a judge would allow Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation to be used as childrens' names. I will grant that somebody somewhere let that stupid Urhines Special K kid through the cracks, but usually there are limits to what you can grace your kids with name-wise.

Here's to hoping those guys grow up and get far, far away from their rejects of parents.

suchislife2
12-20-2008, 01:01 AM
oh that poor kid! Right now he probably has no clue what implications his name is going to cause! What morons those parents are! While I hate hearing the same names used over and over again there is a point where you got to think.."yeah to us it's funny, but is the kid going to be thinking it's so funny when the other kids at school are bullying him/her?"

I've not really seen a cake with anyones full name on it before...I mean when you sing happy birthday you don't say the full name? I think this is all about publicity...and sadly all they have got (and rightly so) is bad publicity!

Once again...that poor kid! I feel for him! Hope he inherited some brains from his grandparents twice removed or something! Cause their clearly ain't any in that family!

Sylvia727
12-20-2008, 04:22 AM
I thought that either the parents were ignorant, or that they were willing to ruin their child's social life and self-esteem for the next 18 years just to prove a moronic point about "sticks and stones" and "letting the past go". But then I read the sister's name, and the dad's comments on how he was raised. "Say he grows up to hang out with black people"? WTF? I have to say that hanging out with black people was never a life choice for me. I have friends, some of whom are black. I never thougt to myself, "Gee, that guy looks like a lot of fun to chill with, but what effect would his skin color have on me?".

As far as I know, the USA does not currently have any system to protect children from stupid names. Somebody else can take the issue to court if they feel it's a problem, but if nobody notices, the kid is screwed. I've heard of other countries that have someone review all the birth certificates, and if they feel the name is questionable they refer it to a judge. I would love to see that in place over here.

Slytovhand
12-20-2008, 01:46 PM
Let me just start by quoting the father:
He sounded surprised by all the controversy the dispute had generated.

How stupid does this person have to be???

Sure, you may wish to make a point (in this case, that you're a neo-nazi), but to be surprised that some people may have an issue???? (and if someone dares to suggest he's not a neo-nazi - then why his first daughter's name of Aryan Nation?).

I hope said children grow up to be somewhat more intelligent than the parents (yes, both - she had a say in this as well...).

As for poor little Adolf - I agree - have his first name on the cake - that works (not that he'll even know the difference at this stage! Just wait for his 16th!!)

daleduke17
12-20-2008, 04:13 PM
Big deal. So this kid is named Adolf Hitler? Why the fuss?

He isn't a psychopathic dictator (at least not right now). So, we shouldn't allow people to be named any of the following (or have their name inscribed on anything):

- Osama bin Laden
- Timothy McVeigh
- Jack Ruby
- Charles Whitman
- Dylan Klebold
- Eric Harris
- Chris Benoit
- Benito Mussolini

or any other name of a murderer/psycho, right?

the_std
12-20-2008, 07:42 PM
The fuss is that this kid will be needlessly tormented for pretty much ever because of it. You think kids are normally mean? Imagine if you were named after one of the biggest evil figures in history. It would be completely traumatizing. And his parents are neo-Nazis. This kid is just being dealt a super shitty hand in life and he has absolutely no control over it. I feel very sorry for him.

daleduke17
12-20-2008, 09:00 PM
The fuss is that this kid will be needlessly tormented for pretty much ever because of it. You think kids are normally mean? Imagine if you were named after one of the biggest evil figures in history. It would be completely traumatizing. And his parents are neo-Nazis. This kid is just being dealt a super shitty hand in life and he has absolutely no control over it. I feel very sorry for him.

Where did it say in the article that the parents were neo-Nazis?

AFPheonix
12-21-2008, 03:36 AM
The fact that the guy has swastikas tattooed all over him and he has skulls in his house with swastikas in them imply that the guy is a neo-nazi.

http://photos.lehighvalleylive.com/gallery/4424/Adolf%20Hitler%20Campbell

anriana
12-21-2008, 04:53 AM
Big deal. So this kid is named Adolf Hitler? Why the fuss?

He isn't a psychopathic dictator (at least not right now). So, we shouldn't allow people to be named any of the following (or have their name inscribed on anything):

- Osama bin Laden
- Timothy McVeigh
- Jack Ruby
- Charles Whitman
- Dylan Klebold
- Eric Harris
- Chris Benoit
- Benito Mussolini

or any other name of a murderer/psycho, right?

I only recognized three of the names on that list, and after wiking the rest, I don't think any of them are comparable, in terms of cultural reaction or in terms of people killed. Adolf Hitler triggers an immediate feeling in me that is quite different from any of the names on that list, or even Stalin (killed far more people) or Pol Pot (had a direct effect on people close to me - I don't know anyone directly affected by Hitler). It may be personal bias, but I feel that the American cultural knowledge of Adolf Hitler is greater than that to any other murderer/psycho. I feel that as a country we know far more about his atrocities than the other dictators I mentioned or most of the people on your list. I don't know why exactly - perhaps because of all the Hollywood stuff about him? Perhaps because he governed a West Europe country and that's the region we focus most on in history? Perhaps because Jews are more culturally prevelant than Eastern Europeans/Cambodians? - but I don't think that a child should be allowed to be named after him any more than a child should be allowed to be named Fuck You, because of the reaction that would be invoked in other people. If an adult wants to embarass themselves that way, fine, but it seems cruel to do to a child.

And if an employee doesn't feel comfortable inscribing those names on something, they shouldn't have to do so.

daleduke17
12-21-2008, 05:46 AM
And if an employee doesn't feel comfortable inscribing those names on something, they shouldn't have to do so.

Yet employees should be forced to dispense medications that they don't feel comfortable dispensing.

Pedersen
12-21-2008, 06:14 AM
Yet employees should be forced to dispense medications that they don't feel comfortable dispensing.

I am impressed, daleduke17. Seriously, I am. However, the power to derail a thread is still insignificant next to the power of the force.

I'll suggest that, if you'd like to debate dispensation of medications against the will of the person holding said medication, you might wish to do so in a thread more appropriate to the topic, such as this one (http://www.fratching.com/showthread.php?t=574).

And now, to return to the actual topic at hand in this thread: Whether we like it or not, certain words and phrases have deep seated meaning within the US. For instance, "nigger", as a word, holds power: The power to shock and repel people. Other such words: faggot, spic, Klansman, and the like.

"Adolf Hitler" is a reminder of something that emotionally affected many people in the US. The man was shown to be nothing less than a monster. For many people, he was the boogie man made manifest. He was the thing in the shadows at night. He provoked fear, and hatred, and a nearly animalistic survival instinct. People were genuinely frightened of him.

That fear was passed down to their children, who have since passed it along again. It is ironic that, even in death, the man holds such power that his mere name is somehow an invocation of revulsion. Whatever else may be said about him, and his followers, and this family in PA, the revulsion still lives on.

To demand that a store employee write something that causes revulsion in that employee, many other store employees, and is likely to cause the same reactions in the community at large is to say that their feelings as a community are irrelevant.

To make that demand, and not even offer up something to provide a counter balance, to try and ameliorate the effects of fulfilling the demand (as was done with desegregation, where people are now able to interact with people of any race more freely than they could beforehand) is nothing less than abhorrent. It says "I am right, and the rest of the world is wrong for disagreeing me. The simple fact of your disagreement is sufficient to show how wrong you are."

It reeks of arrogance, of self-importance, and of selfishness that would be worthy of infants and toddlers, not adults trying to make the world a better place.

No, these people are wrong in what they have done to their child, and are attention seekers who are using what they have done to their child as a way to get attention for themselves. I hope they get the smackdown they so richly deserve.

Boozy
12-21-2008, 02:24 PM
Where did it say in the article that the parents were neo-Nazis?

They named their children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation.

What other conclusions would a rational person draw?

Yet employees should be forced to dispense medications that they don't feel comfortable dispensing.

This is a cake. Not potentially life-saving, doctor-prescribed medication.

A cake.

These people were assholes when they named their children, and they were assholes when they insisted that the full name be put on a cake. They were looking for a fight. Even without the disgusting racist attitudes involved, I have no patience for people who start shit for no reason. Antagonistic, immature, and racist. That's the trifecta of suck, right there.

Rapscallion
12-21-2008, 02:56 PM
They're also crippling their children for life with names like that.

"Okay, next job application is for someone called ... Adolf Hitler. I don't think that needs to go further than the bin. Obvious prank application."

Many other circumstances abound.

Rapscallion

Cat
12-21-2008, 03:09 PM
Raps, that a really good point....I didn't even think about jobs apps or the like...I just thought how this poor kid is gonna get his bum kicked in school....

daleduke17
12-21-2008, 03:17 PM
I am impressed, daleduke17. Seriously, I am. However, the power to derail a thread is still insignificant next to the power of the force.

I'll suggest that, if you'd like to debate dispensation of medications against the will of the person holding said medication, you might wish to do so in a thread more appropriate to the topic, such as this one.


No, I'm not really wanting to discuss dispensing medications, so, pointing out a relevant thread was irrelevant.


This is a cake. Not potentially life-saving, doctor-prescribed medication.

A cake.


That's right, it was a cake. But there was nothing derogatory on the cake, so why make a mountain out of a molehill? The employee should have wrote what was requested, or passed it to a different employee to fill the order. We all have to do tasks we don't feel comfortable doing at work.


These people were assholes when they named their children,


So was Gwen Stefani, Gweneth Paltrow, Tom Cruise and Frank Zappa in my opinion. But it was their choice to name their kids what they did. Is "Aryan Nation" the most well thought out name? No. But was it their choice? Yes. If the kids don't like it, they can change their name when they're 18 (or whatever the age of majority is in New Jersey).

Rapscallion
12-21-2008, 03:59 PM
So was Gwen Stefani, Gweneth Paltrow, Tom Cruise and Frank Zappa in my opinion. But it was their choice to name their kids what they did. Is "Aryan Nation" the most well thought out name? No. But was it their choice? Yes. If the kids don't like it, they can change their name when they're 18 (or whatever the age of majority is in New Jersey).

Those people were doing it to get notoriety for themselves, and I think it was abusive towards their children, but they were also able to pay for private tutelage.

Rapscallion

the_std
12-21-2008, 05:01 PM
So was Gwen Stefani, Gweneth Paltrow, Tom Cruise and Frank Zappa in my opinion. But it was their choice to name their kids what they did. Is "Aryan Nation" the most well thought out name? No. But was it their choice? Yes. If the kids don't like it, they can change their name when they're 18 (or whatever the age of majority is in New Jersey).

Zuma Stefani, Apple Blythe Paltrow and Moses Bruce Anthony Paltrow, Suri Cruise and Moon Unit Zappa. None of those names have the emotional stigma and immediate negative recall that Adolf Hitler has. And the whole "if they don't like it, they can change their name" thing? Eighteen years is more than enough time for the public to mess you up for good, and your chances of that happening with a name like Adolf Hitler are way higher than if you have a name like Apple.

AdminAssistant
12-22-2008, 01:24 AM
Regarding Hitler vs. Stalin, PolPot, Hussein, etc. I paraphrase Mr. Eddie Izzard:

"They killed their own people. And we're sort of fine with that. Hitler killed people next door. Stupid man. After a couple of years, we're not going to allow that!"

Anyone at all interested in Hitler should watch Triumph of the Will. Fascinating and frightening. The German people honestly believed in him.

Stalin was responsible for the deaths of many many millions of people. He completely and totally indoctrinated the Russian people. And we helped him. We...Helped...Stalin. PolPot - we looked the other way. We didn't get involved in WWII until we were personally attacked. How ridiculous!

Sorry, that's OT. These are attention-seeking racist assholes that are forcing their views on their children. However...the best thing the employee could have done is just done the damn cake. By refusing the order, the employee gave this family of idiots the very thing they wanted: ATTENTION. These people, like Fred Phelps, need to be ignored. Every time they cry, "Help, help, I'm being oppressed!" just say, "hm, that's nice. And in other news..."

AFPheonix
12-22-2008, 01:54 AM
I don't know, I think making the cake without a fuss validated them more.

Now, if they made the cake and put a Star of David on it with a happy Mozel Tov!, I would have been pretty amused.

rdp78
12-22-2008, 02:43 AM
Yep, I have to say to the parents WTF? You named your son after one of the most horrific monsters in history and you named your daughter after a racist organization. Y'll say you're not racist but yet your children have what society considers racist names and you are from what I have heard proud to show it off. I mean you wanted the supermarket to write little Adolf Hitler's full name on there and well, they didn't want to do it because well, they had brains. I mean you could just have Adolf on it and be done with it. When you didn't get your way you made a big fuss over it and pretty much made y'll look the bad guys. I mean do you think you are giving your children a fair shot when you named them these names and think society will treat them as everyone else. Well, your children are still young but society will still not be forgiving.

Okay, my little rant is over. But these people are really fucked up and they think that just because they aren't racist as they put it their way but yet they named their kids Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation (well, at least her first name is JoyceLynn). They also named their yougest child Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie was named after one of Hilter's henchmen (Heinrich Luitpold Himmler) so I doubt many people will know who this but I doubt it.

Pedersen
12-22-2008, 02:51 AM
No, I'm not really wanting to discuss dispensing medications, so, pointing out a relevant thread was irrelevant.

Two points:
First, you are the one who brought it up. To directly quote you:
Yet employees should be forced to dispense medications that they don't feel comfortable dispensing.

If you do not wish to debate the topic, don't bring it up. No one will say anything about you needing to jump into the other debate if you don't bring it up.

Second, I had quite a bit more to say than that in my post. Apparently, either you feel that my entire point was too profound to be addressed, or too lame to be addressed. In either case, I'll address the rest of yours:

That's right, it was a cake. But there was nothing derogatory on the cake, so why make a mountain out of a molehill? The employee should have wrote what was requested, or passed it to a different employee to fill the order. We all have to do tasks we don't feel comfortable doing at work.

A statement does not have to be derogatory to be offensive. In fact, it's possible to make an entirely supportive statement that is extremely offensive. Allow me to provide an example:

"Adolf Hitler was a man with a vision for preserving the purity of races, and he pursued that vision with vigor. Furthermore, he felt that specific groups were responsible for much of the pain and suffering in the world, and he pursued those groups, doing everything in his power to remove them and their ability to cause pain and suffering."

Perfectly supportive. And totally offensive. In fact, if I had meant one word of that, I'd expect to receive some very unkind words from both other board members and from the moderators, in public and in private. Why? Because the sentiments expressed by those words is highly offensive.

Now, let's take this family's cake out of context: A random stranger comes into the store and asks for a birthday cake that reads "Happy Birthday Adolf Hitler". Would you have any way of knowing this was for his son, and not some sort of celebration by a group of neo-nazis? Now, suppose you make this cake, decorate it this way, and then someone else sees it in the checkout lane, or on its way out of the store. How would this person know that the cake was meant for a three year old, and not that same celebration I just described? (Hint: I know that the psychopath's birthday is April 20, mainly because of details about the Columbine shootings. How many others do?)

Again, you are stating that the store in question should ignore the feelings of the employees, the supervisors, and other members of the community, simply because you think they should. Furthermore, you are stating that the entire community is in the wrong, again because you think they are, since it's just words.

Words have power. They communicate thoughts and ideas from one person to another. Change the words, and change the thoughts. One simple example of the same thought expressed by two different groups of people: "Benedict Arnold was a traitor to the Americas, trying to keep them shackled to an oppressive monarchy an ocean away that cared nothing for them." ... or ... "Benedict Arnold was a hero to the monarchy, willing to sacrifice his own life to preserve the lawful government of the Americas."

Same story. Change the words, change the feelings. No matter how much you may like it, the name "Adolf Hitler" conveys a thought, and it is an overwhelmingly negative thought. At this point in history, the western world is not yet ready to change the meaning of the words. Demanding they do so simply on the say so of a small handful of people smacks of arrogance and self-righteousness.

And, for all of this, the worst victim in this is the 3 year old. For at least the next 15 years of his life, he will be forced to use this name that his parents chose for him. And the damage that will be done to his psyche by the school system will be incalculable. To him, I extend both pity and sympathy.

Slytovhand
12-22-2008, 02:15 PM
"Adolf Hitler was a man with a vision for preserving the purity of races, and he pursued that vision with vigor. Furthermore, he felt that specific groups were responsible for much of the pain and suffering in the world, and he pursued those groups, doing everything in his power to remove them and their ability to cause pain and suffering."

Absolutely nothing wrong with that statement at all, and I'd hope you wouldnt' cop any flack for voicing it.

Now... agreeing with it is a different matter... Well, agreeing with the sentiment within it at any rate. I agree with said statement (pretty much - not sure how historically accurate it is though). It's a statement about how 1 person viewed his world, not how everyone else around them views that world. It is a statement of fact... not of opinion.

Oh, one slight change I'll make to your thesis - not a disagreement, but an addition... idiots have power :p

Dale was suffering from the same condition I often do... idealism. It would be nice for Hitler's name not to be an issue - but for the near future, it will.

Still - daddy neo-nazi is still a tosser! Hopefully the school said children go to will handle things intelligently...

Pedersen
12-22-2008, 03:51 PM
Now... agreeing with it is a different matter... Well, agreeing with the sentiment within it at any rate. I agree with said statement (pretty much - not sure how historically accurate it is though). It's a statement about how 1 person viewed his world, not how everyone else around them views that world. It is a statement of fact... not of opinion.

That, though, is preciesly my point. The statement being made without an explicit condemnation of the sentiment expressed implies agreement with the sentiment. It becomes a supportive statement, and is extremely non-derogatory. And it is an extremely offensive sentiment to agree with.

As to accuracy, I'll admit to not knowing the mind of the man. From what I believe I know, though, that statement is rather accurate.

Oh, one slight change I'll make to your thesis - not a disagreement, but an addition... idiots have power :p

Actually, that's totally separate. Words themselves have the power to shape our thoughts. Idiots, though, do not. They do not have the vocabulary necessary to sway us.

When you stop and think about it, it's almost scary how easy it is to change someone's thoughts, just by changing the words you use. Consider these word and phrase pairs, and look at how society views them: pro-life/pro-choice, military action/terrorism, intelligence gathering/espionage, treason/hero.

They are not direct corollaries, not by a long shot. But, somewhere in the world, when someone uses one, someone else can use the other to describe the same action (well, except for pro-life/pro-choice).

Add in the first hearing advantage: If you first hear about someone being called a traitor, it will be much harder for you to change your mental associations later and call that person a hero (and vice versa).

No, it's not the idiots who have power, since they simply have the power of repetition. The words are the source of the power.

Dale was suffering from the same condition I often do... idealism. It would be nice for Hitler's name not to be an issue - but for the near future, it will.

Chances are very good that it will continue to be a problem for the rest of our lives, and even a bit beyond. In this country, Benedict Arnold is still used as an epithet (e.g.: "He's such a Benedict Arnold."). And that man was just a traitor. Well, to the US anyway. To the UK, he would have been viewed as a loyal servant of the government, possibly even a hero.

Adolf Hitler's legacy will live on long after our own lives have ended. And it's not a good one.

Still - daddy neo-nazi is still a tosser! Hopefully the school said children go to will handle things intelligently...

Lots of luck on that. Having been through the school system, and having seen that my sister (who might well be the worst possible candidate for teaching that I've ever seen) managed to become a teacher... I'm not exactly hopeful for how this poor child will turn out.

Oh, and here's another bitch of it all: Suppose for a minute that he does manage to go on to do something great, and worthy of note. How do you think the papers will report it? How do you think the history books will note it? Anything that kid does will be overshadowed by his namesake. He will have to change his name just to be able to be an individual.

I pity the kid more with time I think of the consequences of his name.

protege
12-26-2008, 12:04 AM
Let's not forget one thing--the parents did it for attention. If it the cake was simply lettered "Happy Birthday Adolf" I don't think it would even be an issue. I mean, if it was just his first name, the kid could have been named for Adolf Galland, who was a German WWII fighter pilot. But no, they had to tag on "Hitler." In other words, they wanted the attention...and are now upset that the media has "intruded into their little bubble, but shown them to be the racist white trash that they are.

Kyree
12-29-2008, 06:22 PM
That's right, it was a cake. But there was nothing derogatory on the cake, so why make a mountain out of a molehill?

Did everyone but me miss the part where they asked for swastikas on the cake?
"Karen Meleta, a spokeswoman for ShopRite, defended the supermarket. She said the Campbells had similar requests denied at the same store the last two years and said Heath Campbell previously had asked for a swastika to be included in the decoration."

After having asked for that, they have no ground to stand on saying that it's not racist.

Let's not forget one thing--the parents did it for attention. If it the cake was simply lettered "Happy Birthday Adolf" I don't think it would even be an issue. I mean, if it was just his first name, the kid could have been named for Adolf Galland, who was a German WWII fighter pilot. But no, they had to tag on "Hitler." In other words, they wanted the attention...and are now upset that the media has "intruded into their little bubble, but shown them to be the racist white trash that they are.

Exactly. I've never heard of someone putting their full name on a cake. Adolf is a fine name, but when you tack it onto that last name willingly, there's a problem. They just want a reaction, and sadly they got what they wanted.

Pedersen
12-29-2008, 06:48 PM
I happen to shop at the Shop-Rite in question, stopping in there most weeks for whatever groceries we need. I decided to stop as customer service, and ask if this was the store in the story.

The poor woman behind the counter braced herself. I could see that she was expecting a ration of shit to be handed to her. She confirmed this was the same store, and I just said "Thank you. I'm glad your store refused them." and walked away.

Gotta feel bad for the employees. How much crap have they gotten over this?

Slytovhand
12-29-2008, 07:20 PM
Good one Pedersen!!!

Actually - if you happen back in there again, tell them there's a large bunch of people on here who fully support them :D

IDrinkaRum
08-06-2010, 07:53 PM
Adolf Hitler Campbell and his 2 sisters have been removed from their home (http://www.parentdish.com/2010/08/06/new-jerseys-little-adolf-hitler-wont-be-coming-home-soon/?icid=main|aim|dl3|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parentdi sh.com%2F2010%2F08%2F06%2Fnew-jerseys-little-adolf-hitler-wont-be-coming-home-soon%2F)


Because of abuse and neglect on the parts of the parents of Adolf Hitler Campbell and his sisters, the state of New Jersey has permanently removed them from their home.

Greenday
08-06-2010, 08:06 PM
Adolf Hitler Campbell and his 2 sisters have been removed from their home (http://www.parentdish.com/2010/08/06/new-jerseys-little-adolf-hitler-wont-be-coming-home-soon/?icid=main|aim|dl3|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parentdi sh.com%2F2010%2F08%2F06%2Fnew-jerseys-little-adolf-hitler-wont-be-coming-home-soon%2F)


Because of abuse and neglect on the parts of the parents of Adolf Hitler Campbell and his sisters, the state of New Jersey has permanently removed them from their home.

Keep your fingers crossed for a name change people.

Plaidman
08-06-2010, 10:02 PM
I love how some comments were sprouting their hate for the goverment for daring to ruin a parents right to name their child those names. They bothered to read the fact their father was an abusive murderous maniac and the kids were in danger.

anakhouri
08-08-2010, 12:49 AM
If the kids were being abused, then they should have been removed from the home, and I'm glad they were.

But on the subject of the name...obviously there was racism being taught in this house. And obviously the parents are idiots for giving their children names with such bad connotations and not thinking of how the world views them. But people have tje right to name their kids as they please, even if it's stupid, and they have the right to raise their children as they see fit, even if it means teaching them to be narrow-minded and bigoted.

The store has a right to refuse service to anyone. But...I would have done it, I think. Maybe not the swastikas, but the name. Because no little kid deservees to go without a birthday cake just because his parents are morons.

Lace Neil Singer
08-08-2010, 12:20 PM
I wouldn't have. And if anyone had asked me, I would have said that since my family is Jewish on my father's side, I have every right to refuse.

I disagree on your other point too; would you agree to a child being named Sex Fruit or Vagina then? Or of being taught that, say, black people are evil and deserve to be killed? I wouldn't go so far to say that was abuse, but it's certainly not the right way to bring up a child and could have devastating effects on the child in the future. The parents might be at fault for calling this child Adolf Hitler, but it's little Adolf who will bear the brunt of people's anger at his name.

Mongo Skruddgemire
08-08-2010, 02:07 PM
You know, I was all about defending the right for this child to have a cake with his name on it, even if his name was something offensive. After all, most Muslim names offend those intolerant of Muslims.

But when I got to this part of the article...

Karen Meleta, a spokeswoman for ShopRite, defended the supermarket. She said the Campbells had similar requests denied at the same store the last two years and said Heath Campbell previously had asked for a swastika to be included in the decoration.

...this guy lost any sympathy from me.

I could argue that the Swastika was used by Native Americans, as well as many other cultures pre-dating the Third Reich by thousands of years. But when you put both the name and the icon together, this is the signs of an attention whore who is putting his child in the middle of something he is innocent of.

This child isn't interested in making a statement. This child isn't able to grasp the political nuances. Hell this kid is likely still eating his own boogers.

This child just wants to be a child and sadly his parents are being colossal, Olympic-sized douches.

DrFaroohk
08-08-2010, 07:16 PM
Who names their kid that!?!?!?!? That's stupid. They've ruined this poor kids life. What college is going to accept a kid named Adolf Hitler Campbell? What job will hire him? They'll take one look at his application and throw it away (or hit the delete button).

I can't STAND people who give their kids shitty names. Even normal names spelled wrong, like "Gennyphir". Or trailer trash people who name their kids stuff like "Lord Christian Dante the Fourth" for a first name. How about if you want to stand out, change your own name to Adolf Hitler Stalin bin Laden.

fireheart17
08-10-2010, 04:23 AM
Breaking it down.

Cake: I wouldn't have done it either. Thankfully my store does have requirements on what we can and can't put on birthday cakes.
Name: If the kids have been fostered/adopted out, is there a chance that someone could rule for a name change? I recall the girl with Talulah Does The Hula from Hawaii was allowed to.
Parents: That's awful.

crashhelmet
08-10-2010, 09:59 PM
I read in one article where the parents ended up going to Walmart and they decorated the cake for them without problem. Whether or not they added the swastikas, it didn't say. I'll see if I can find the link and add it.

What I also remember from the same article was that a big part of the reason the judge removed them from the home were letters their mother wrote to a neighbor in fear of her life. Something along the lines of "If you don't hear from me tomorrow, please call the cops because he killed me."

The judge deemed it an unhealthy and unstable home as a result.

CH

Found it (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/05/adolf-hitler-campbells-pa_n_672045.html)

Teysa
08-10-2010, 10:04 PM
I do think there's some hope for the mother if she can get the psychological help she needs. From the note she wrote it does sound like she has some concern for her children. While giving it to the neighbors may not have been the best course of action, it was not the worst either. At the very least it got those poor kids out of the house.

draco664
08-11-2010, 04:01 AM
The statement being made without an explicit condemnation of the sentiment expressed implies agreement with the sentiment. It becomes a supportive statement, and is extremely non-derogatory.

Bull. Shit.

Making the statement "Person A believed X" in no way implies agreement. That you believe so does imply that your critical reasoning skills are lacking.

Red Panda
08-11-2010, 01:44 PM
Who names their kid that!?!?!?!? That's stupid. They've ruined this poor kids life. What college is going to accept a kid named Adolf Hitler Campbell? What job will hire him? They'll take one look at his application and throw it away (or hit the delete button).

Worst of all they had all the opportunities in the world to name him Bruce but squandered them.

Name: If the kids have been fostered/adopted out, is there a chance that someone could rule for a name change? I recall the girl with Talulah Does The Hula from Hawaii was allowed to.
Parents: That's awful.

Indeed she did.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/53831/Judge-condemns-bizarre-child-namesJudge-condemns-bizarre-child-namesJudge-condemns-bizarre-child-names


As horrible as it must be for these kids at least there is a bunch of them in the same town so it must not be that bad for them. Thats my weak justification for laughing at Yeah Detroit and Sex Fruit.

Oddly enough, all these names which are horrible for children sound like they would be pretty good names for rock bands.

Hobbs
08-11-2010, 04:01 PM
Worst of all they had all the opportunities in the world to name him Bruce but squandered them.


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk196/PBSnipes/win.jpg

No more needs be said :D

Bloodsoul
08-11-2010, 04:08 PM
I actually named my character in Pokémon Emerald "Vagina." I blame Strangers in Paradise with Ms. Jet Jones' bad influence.

Red Panda
08-11-2010, 06:47 PM
I've named my rival Hitler in the past.


Nothing feels better then besting Hitler in a Pokemon battle.

Lace Neil Singer
08-12-2010, 12:40 AM
Psh. Everyone knows that Stalin is a far better name. Stalin totally pwns Hitler, you know. :p

Nyoibo
08-12-2010, 04:37 AM
Psh. Everyone knows that Stalin is a far better name. Stalin totally pwns Hitler, you know. :p

Only in the winter.

AdminAssistant
08-12-2010, 03:02 PM
Only in the winter.

Napoleon: "I'm going to kill them, I'm going to kill them, Oh! It's a bit cold, it's a bit cold."

Hitler: "I've got a better idea! No, it's the same idea, it's the same idea."

Thank you, Eddie Izzard.

Red Panda
08-13-2010, 02:14 PM
I don't even know why people keep trying to invade Russia. Is there abundant supply of snow and sorrow really that alluring.

Nyoibo
08-13-2010, 02:34 PM
It's the vodka.

Ginger Tea
08-13-2010, 08:07 PM
outside of the bible was there anyone else called Judas? (not counting Arnold Judas Rimmer) that name has been loaded for even longer, just not as loaded as hitler although the Adolf bit is probably mundane in modern Germany

protege
08-14-2010, 05:42 PM
"Adolf" or "Adolph," isn't seen much now. Mainly because of the association with a certain short little man with a funny mustache :rolleyes: But, until then, it was a common name. Oddly enough, one Adolf Galland...was a respected German WWII fighter ace, He was removed from his command, because of his views questioning der fuhrer's handling of the war. Even now, he has the respect of his former enemies. Compare that with Adolf Hitler...who is usually associated with the deaths of 6 million-plus people, the total destruction of his country's economy (not to mention most of Europe!)

AdminAssistant
08-14-2010, 06:02 PM
"Adolf" or "Adolph," isn't seen much now. Mainly because of the association with a certain short little man with a funny mustache

According to my German professor, words associated with Hitler also aren't used very often, although they have innocent meanings. For example, reich = empire. Rarely used. Also, fuhrer = leader or guide. Never used to refer to a person anymore.