Having taste = shallow.... / Hating on attractive girls....

[Seshat]

I once found out a guy I was dating had chosen me because I was pretty, and he thought it'd make him more popular/fit in better with his friends.
Basically, he wanted a girlfriend, not me. I was a symbol. A 'trophy girlfriend', so to speak. Not that I was putting in the hours of effort it takes to look as good as your average 'trophy wife' does!
I have no objection to the 'trophy spouse/wealthy spouse' deal, as long as both partners are well aware of the deal and happy with it. It's when one is unwitting that it pisses me off.


Anyway.

I know several geekish types who make a point of caring for their bodies as best they can. Some of those also choose to dress up, but others most commonly dress for their personal comfort.
Some (such as my husband) can be negotiated with: A and I can help him buy clothes he finds comfortable and we find attractive, and he'll happily wear those. He looks a lot better dressed than he did when I married him.

[blas87]

Oh, the guys who want "the girl next door" type, even though she's most likely got an eating disorder, a drug or drinking problem, and probably has really violent tendencies but it's okay because she loves sports, the outdoors, and doesn't like shopping?

Oh yeah. I remember guys who wanted "that girl". That, or the easy 18 year olds.

[Racket_Man]

Yeah; the "I used a spade to apply my foundation" look does not look good on anyone. O.o

anyone for a Homer Makeup Shotgun?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2WmZDP3kIY

[Lace Neil Singer]

Yeah; the "I used a spade to apply my foundation" look does not look good on anyone. O.o

[Gravekeeper]

Yeah, like guys who say they love the natural look... when in fact, what they THINK is the "natural look" is in fact a look that took hours and shitloads of makeup to achieve.

I do like the "nature look", qq. Though I am a firm believer that the best make up is make up that makes you look good without anyone realising you're wearing make up.

Not fond of the excessive "I painted my face this morning-" look nor the even worse "-with a spackle knife" sub type. ;p

[Lace Neil Singer]

As for people saying they'd rather have a "nerdy guy/girl" or an "Average Joe" or a "Plain Jane," here is what I've noticed.

In many cases, if a girl says she likes nerdy guys, she's usually thinking of a Brad Pitt lookalike wearing "smart person clothes" of some sort and sporting glasses. If a guy says he likes nerdy girls, he's usually picturing a Playboy model wearing glasses and a plain white blouse.

If the guy is saying he likes a "Plain Jane," he's typically referring to any of the models in Maxim minus the airbrushing and makeup. If a woman wants an "Average Joe," she probably wants Ryan Reynolds in jeans and a hoodie.

Yeah, like guys who say they love the natural look... when in fact, what they THINK is the "natural look" is in fact a look that took hours and shitloads of makeup to achieve.

[HYHYBT]

Sure. But, again, I have the sense to know that 1) the combination is rare; 2) those with that combination would be in high demand and therefore, probably, unavailable; and 3) even aside from those, they'd be unlikely to be interested in me in return.

[Gravekeeper]

I'll take nerdy personality and intellect in the body of "The Rock."

So in other words Vin Diesel? -.-

[HYHYBT]

I admit, given the ability to mix and match characteristics at will... I'll take nerdy personality and intellect in the body of "The Rock."

But I know it doesn't work that way.

[AdminAssistant]

Or the nerdy interests or activities.

[Boozy]

Most women who want "nerds" want a nerdy personality and intellect, but not the stereotypical nerdy appearance.

[guywithashovel]

I didn't mean to say that was always the case. It's just that, from what I've observed, what I posted in my earlier post is a trend (perhaps a slight trend) I've noticed.

[Silverharp]

As for people saying they'd rather have a "nerdy guy/girl" or an "Average Joe" or a "Plain Jane," here is what I've noticed.

In many cases, if a girl says she likes nerdy guys, she's usually thinking of a Brad Pitt lookalike wearing "smart person clothes" of some sort and sporting glasses. If a guy says he likes nerdy girls, he's usually picturing a Playboy model wearing glasses and a plain white blouse.

I disagree. I've met plenty women, HOT women who really are looking for a guy that they can talk to. I've met women who are with average looking, geeky guys and who are genuinely happy because they have someone that they can relate to.
That, and the word is geeks make better lovers because they appreciate the women that they're with.
At least that's what I tell my wife

[guywithashovel]

As for people saying they'd rather have a "nerdy guy/girl" or an "Average Joe" or a "Plain Jane," here is what I've noticed.

In many cases, if a girl says she likes nerdy guys, she's usually thinking of a Brad Pitt lookalike wearing "smart person clothes" of some sort and sporting glasses. If a guy says he likes nerdy girls, he's usually picturing a Playboy model wearing glasses and a plain white blouse.

If the guy is saying he likes a "Plain Jane," he's typically referring to any of the models in Maxim minus the airbrushing and makeup. If a woman wants an "Average Joe," she probably wants Ryan Reynolds in jeans and a hoodie.

[Silverharp]

I've seen this type of situation a LOT at DragonCon over the years, with people accusing the girls in the skimpy and almost-costumes as having daddy issues or being attention whores.
The best response I heard from a woman? "I dress this way because I LIKE to, not for your approval."
Hell, Mary (my wife) wouldn't go out with me for YEARS because I'm fat, and told me that she fet bad about it later. Yes, people are generally shallow when it comes to appearances, but one of the things that makes us human is the ability to get beyond that.