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  • Jarlaxle
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    Originally posted by sophie View Post
    My stepdaughters elementary school is reaching a whole new level of stupid.
    Just...wow! That sounds like a Dilbert cartoon!
    Last edited by MadMike; 10-19-2014, 11:15 PM. Reason: Please don't quote the entire post. We've already read it.

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  • Blue Ginger
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    The 'no braids/plaits' thing would have been an absolute nightmare for me. My hair was down to my bum by the time I was in grade 3 (7 years old) and really thick. The only way to control it at school was to plait it.

    Admittedly, it occasionally made a very handy weapon.

    But my hair stayed clean and it wasn't going to annoy the person who shared the desk with me. I also never got nits/lice, even when everyone else in the school seemed to have got them.

    I also frequently had Pippi Longstocking pig tails too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippi_Longstocking (The wire was only put i for costume day during book week though.)

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  • sophie
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    Originally posted by evilfarmer View Post
    The only reason I can see on the hair is pulling but I got my hair pulled harder by peers when it was down. Does this also mean you cant braid pigtails?
    No braids at all, it's not allowed even just braided pigtails will get them sent home.

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  • evilfarmer
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    It can be 100 degrees outside and they'll still do it.
    No exceptions, getting the flu can get you expelled.




    "To prevent stalking and harassment." It doesn't even have an address on it.
    We usually tried to hide ours but I could see taunts starting by other kids seeing the grades. Still makes it stupid though.



    The only reason I can see on the hair is pulling but I got my hair pulled harder by peers when it was down. Does this also mean you cant braid pigtails?

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  • sophie
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    Some one will sue them soon. I just thinks it's weird to not let a kid sit up at all.

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  • fireheart17
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    Originally posted by sophie View Post
    It can be 100 degrees outside and they'll still do it.
    No exceptions, getting the flu can get you expelled.
    How long until someone sues the school for these?


    Making a vomiting child lay down is over kill.
    OK, not during a puking spell, but if the child isn't puking, wouldn't laying down be seen as the "standard"?






    "To prevent stalking and harassment." It doesn't even have an address on it.






    The worst is when they ask if I can do traditional dances...um, the Queen of England has more rhythm than I do, no one should ever see me dance.



    And in winter it helps with keeping the hair out of their eyes in storms but they think it will, I don't know strangle them or something!?
    See my above post. There are a number of benefits to braiding hair, but the only safety risks I can see are basically it getting caught in something but even then, it can be freed easily if the braids are thick enough.

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  • AccountingDrone
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    Originally posted by TheHuckster View Post
    Cursive was rather used for quills, since repeated lifting from the paper could cause drops and smudges, and cursive reduces the amount of times you lift from the paper.

    You would be in a world of pain if you had to carve or chisel out cursive on a clay tablet. Print is much easier for that kind of thing.
    No, because clay is soft unil you cure then fire it, hence cuneiform. Which you can also get as a computer font

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  • sophie
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    Originally posted by fireheart17 View Post
    Do they account for hot weather, or do they expect every student to come to school in bikinis and budgie smugglers?
    It can be 100 degrees outside and they'll still do it.


    I'm wondering if this one is in part due to parents pulling their kid out for a non-illness related reason and then it turns out that no, little Jimmy isn't sick, he's been visiting Japan with his parents. Does this one include having a sick certificate from the doctor?
    No exceptions, getting the flu can get you expelled.

    The latter I'm guessing is because they don't want students in there using it as an excuse to skip class, so if they're there, they must be sick?
    Making a vomiting child lay down is over kill.




    Is there a reason why the school does not distribute these to the students themselves?
    "To prevent stalking and harassment." It doesn't even have an address on it.



    And here I was thinking that America was meant to be a melting pot....(The only theory I have on this one is that they assume that because French is spoken in a number of African countries that Spanish works the same way.)
    The worst is when they ask if I can do traditional dances...um, the Queen of England has more rhythm than I do, no one should ever see me dance.



    No OHS risks I can think of. If anything, it'd actually be a BENEFIT to them since their hair isn't likely to catch on things. (and if it does, it can be easily freed)
    Only risks I can think of are all racist or sexist in some way
    And in winter it helps with keeping the hair out of their eyes in storms but they think it will, I don't know strangle them or something!?

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  • fireheart17
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    I'm not trying to justify this entirely, but I can see where a couple of these ideas may be coming from.

    Originally posted by sophie View Post
    -If a student has a fever of 99.0 fahrenheit after recess they must be sent home.
    Do they account for hot weather, or do they expect every student to come to school in bikinis and budgie smugglers?

    -If a student is sick for more than 5 days they may be suspended.
    I'm wondering if this one is in part due to parents pulling their kid out for a non-illness related reason and then it turns out that no, little Jimmy isn't sick, he's been visiting Japan with his parents. Does this one include having a sick certificate from the doctor?

    -The children have to report to a teacher if they hear another child cough.
    This is stupid and to me, just encourages tattling.

    -Our eldest was made to write an essay on her name because a teacher "didn't understand it", that means the teacher has never read fricking King Arthur!
    I'm guessing that the teacher manages to understand names like "Saaphryi" and "Bacardi" perfectly?

    -The nurses office has a medication refrigerator but no medications may be put in it, it's only for show.
    -When a kids in the nurses office they must lay down, no sitting or standing.
    The medication refrigerator being for show I'm guessing is to placate potential new enrolments? (it's also stupid if it's not actually being used)

    The latter I'm guessing is because they don't want students in there using it as an excuse to skip class, so if they're there, they must be sick?


    -Wouldn't let me pick up a report card because I'm not their "real mother".I'm on the approved list to do so, you're just a mean old hag.
    Is there a reason why the school does not distribute these to the students themselves?


    -No fruit allowed because of allergies. If your fruit allergies are that severe maybe public schools not for you.
    OK, I'm sorry, but that's just plain stupid. Hell, I have a couple of children at the school I work at who have fruit allergies (my manager is also allergic to strawberries and pineapples). All we do is just monitor carefully and try not to use the items if at all possible (we don't eliminate completely-basically if it's at the "contains this product" line it's a no-go, if it's at the "traces" level, it's generally OK. The only exceptions are milk and bread: we have normal and allergic alternatives)


    -The healthy breakfast option is a "Nutridonut" WTF is that!?
    A bit of googling gave me this: http://www.superbakery.com/foodservi...2841&int=15042

    Basically it's a donut made with ingredients that have vitamins and minerals added. Basically it's still a donut, but it means that the kids are now supposedly eating "good" food disguised as junk food! (Yeah, it's stupid. Hell, we offer toast or cereal at work with the occasional alternative thrown in. The kids will happily down it)

    -They heard I wasnt American born and decided to greet me in Spanish, and were shocked that an african woman doesnt speak Spanish!
    And here I was thinking that America was meant to be a melting pot....(The only theory I have on this one is that they assume that because French is spoken in a number of African countries that Spanish works the same way.)

    -No hair braids. My stepdaughters loved it when I would braid their hair(my grandmother taught me) but it's a safety risk some how?
    No OHS risks I can think of. If anything, it'd actually be a BENEFIT to them since their hair isn't likely to catch on things. (and if it does, it can be easily freed)
    Only risks I can think of are all racist or sexist in some way.


    -Black tights are a gang sign. Gangs dont wear little girls black tights!
    No, it's the assumption that the girls are being raised to be in a gang? Yeah, I got nothing on this one. It's just plain stupid. (a number of schools over here are banning the tights if they're footless or short, but full-length footed ones are OK for school. This is more for aesethic purposes than anything else)

    -No capris, shorts are ok as are long pants but no capris ever!
    Dare I ask where they consider the point at which "shorts" stop and capris start? For instance, this and this
    could fall into "capri" territory EASILY.

    -Teachers argue with me about what country I'm from.And say I cant be because I didnt live in a mud hut.
    I....got nothing. All it does is remind me of that Arthur episode where DW means The Brain's cousin from Senegal and she gives him a picture depicting him riding a hippo to the mud-hut that looks like a school. (I believe that's what she's drawn)

    You have my sympathies.

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  • KabeRinnaul
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    Originally posted by Bloodsoul View Post
    I actually had my D&D 3.5 sorceress train in the skill, "Use Magic Device," so she could heal herself with a wand of cure wounds (a spell not normally usable by sorcerers).
    UMD is one of the most useful skills in 3.0/3.5/Pathfinder for that exact reason. Being able to use scrolls and other wands is a minor benefit on top of "Standard Action to heal 1d8+1 as needed".

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  • TheHuckster
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    Originally posted by Bloodsoul View Post
    In a way I can see a reason behind this, perhaps some seeing it as an outdated concept. I was just thinking about when was the last time anyone had to carve/chisel out letters in a clay tablet. Well, maybe not the same thing…
    Cursive was rather used for quills, since repeated lifting from the paper could cause drops and smudges, and cursive reduces the amount of times you lift from the paper.

    You would be in a world of pain if you had to carve or chisel out cursive on a clay tablet. Print is much easier for that kind of thing.

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  • Bloodsoul
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    I'm reminded of Rosa from Pokémon: Black/White Version 2. A gang member if I ever saw one. She even hung out with (redeemed) criminals!

    Originally posted by NecCat View Post
    No - cursive writing is if fact no longer being taught here (Ontario), because students supposedly won't need to know it, everything they need will be in type or printed. If people no longer handwrite anything longer than a quick note, and type everything else, no one will write, only print. My son's elementary school doesn't teach it, and my friend who teaches university is starting to get students who can't read it. So it must not have been being taught for at least 12-15 years.
    In a way I can see a reason behind this, perhaps some seeing it as an outdated concept. I was just thinking about when was the last time anyone had to carve/chisel out letters in a clay tablet. Well, maybe not the same thing…

    Originally posted by sophie View Post
    Last year they even expelled students for having the flu. They said the parents should have made them better faster. Sure let me just pull out my magic wand!
    I actually had my D&D 3.5 sorceress train in the skill, "Use Magic Device," so she could heal herself with a wand of cure wounds (a spell not normally usable by sorcerers).

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  • sophie
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    I wouldn't care if they didn't teach it, but they should do one or the other not half way.

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  • HYHYBT
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    The thing with cursive is there are no benefits, other than being able to read things written in it more easily, to using that style of handwriting. It's not faster (except, of course, in the useless sense that people write fastest in whichever system they're used to) and it's *always* less legible than the style of handwriting some call printing. Meanwhile, going through the process of learning to write *twice* takes a lot longer than only learning once and therefore necessarily replaces or postpones learning something else. It would be better not to teach it even if there were no such things as computers.

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  • sophie
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    Originally posted by Rageaholic View Post
    So not only do they have such a strict definition of what constitutes 'sick', but when said student gets sick for 5 days, they get punished. What kind of school even punishes students for being sick? That's the stupidest thing ever (and considering the other stuff on the list, that's saying a lot.)
    Last year they even expelled students for having the flu. They said the parents should have made them better faster. Sure let me just pull out my magic wand!

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