Most spoilt child in Britain? [Archive]

Lace Neil Singer

08-08-2009, 07:42 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1205122/At-just-11-Brogan-SPOILT-child-Britain.html

Seriously, words fail me. This woman thinks it's perfectly alright to have spent £150,000 on her 11 year old daughter and to be teaching her that anything she wants, she gets. By the way, she and her husband have another daughter who doesn't get jack shit spent on her. -.-

Wingates_Hellsing

08-08-2009, 10:48 PM

That's an impressive number of fails all in one cohesive action. Fiscal responsibility fail, awe-inspiring parenting fail... no really, it's epic, willpower fail, general responsibility fail, oh the list goes on! :D

Why am I trying to make light of this situation, you ask?

Because if I didn't laugh at it, I'd be weeping for the future :(

Flyndaran

08-08-2009, 11:44 PM

LeChatNoir

08-09-2009, 12:53 AM

Wow. This article had the surprising power to piss me off to no end. What a pathetic excuse for a human being that girl is going to turn out to be.

Flyndaran

08-09-2009, 01:30 AM

Wow. This article had the surprising power to piss me off to no end. What a pathetic excuse for a human being that girl is going to turn out to be.

I don't know. Nellie turned into a very nice demure woman.
Ha! Ancient callback to "Little House on the Prairie".
That isn't gunfire. It's just my old bones popping. :)

Nyoibo

08-10-2009, 06:42 AM

Yeah, she's not going to make it as a model, she's going to be in for a rude awakening in a few years, I just hope I can see it.

Lace Neil Singer

08-10-2009, 10:54 AM

Yeah, she's not going to make it as a model, she's going to be in for a rude awakening in a few years, I just hope I can see it.

I don't want to sound like a bitch, but I have to agree with you; that girl just does not have the looks or build to make it in the very competitive modeling industry. It's probably baby fat, but she does look very chubby; maybe when she goes thru puberty she'll lose that, but seeing as she's got carte blanche by her parents to spend as much money as she wants on anything she likes with her credit card (why the fuck does an 11 year old have a credit card?!), including chocolate, crisps and fizzy drinks, I doubt it.

I can also foresee many problems with her sister; yeah, now she doesn't like designer labels, being only five; however when she gets older and sees her sister being spoiled rotten with expensive stuff and not her, she's going to get very resentful and jealous. I personally think it's incredibly stupid, even verging on spiteful, to favour a child over another like this.

crazylegs

08-10-2009, 02:27 PM

It'll be interesting to see what happens if she gets in trouble (for something minor, like say speeding) when she's older and how she reacts to authority then...

Barbiegirl

08-10-2009, 07:05 PM

"Brogan will say to me “Mum, you’re not going out hairdressing again tonight are you?”, and I’ll reply “Where do you think all the money comes from to pay for your things?”

That really got me, Yeah the kid is a brat but somewhere underneath what she really wants and needs is a family to love her and spend time with her.
It'll be a hard few years but if they start now they might actually make a decent person out of her yet. Otherwise she will continue to compensate and think that love=objects and become a royal PITA.

It also blows my mind that the mother is the same age as I am. This is one of the many reasons you shouldn't have a kid until you've had a chance to live in the real world yourself.

Flyndaran

08-10-2009, 07:16 PM

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It also blows my mind that the mother is the same age as I am. This is one of the many reasons you shouldn't have a kid until you've had a chance to live in the real world yourself.

The risk of birth defects, especially down's syndrome, increases the older a woman is when she gives birth. Until we get genetic engineering down, I would prefer to limit the number of deformities in the future.

BroomJockey

08-10-2009, 07:21 PM

The risk of birth defects, especially down's syndrome, increases the older a woman is when she gives birth.

Okay, the prick side of me wants to ask "So what? You had no issues with a 70-year old having kids just because she wanted them," but that's tangential at best. :p

On topic, and a proper response would be to point out that maturity isn't really tied to chronological age, and it's possible to live in the world and get experience enough before a woman's even 25. It's a fair bet the mother was spoilt or sheltered in some fashion during her youth, as well.

Flyndaran

08-10-2009, 07:23 PM

Okay, the prick side of me wants to ask "So what? You had no issues with a 70-year old having kids just because she wanted them," but that's tangential at best. :p.
You're misremembering my point. I said that it shouldn't be banned, not that it wasn't a bad idea.

On topic, and a proper response would be to point out that maturity isn't really tied to chronological age, and it's possible to live in the world and get experience enough before a woman's even 25. It's a fair bet the mother was spoilt or sheltered in some fashion during her youth, as well.

Normally when someone says that a person has lived more than their age suggests, it means that they had a harsh life. I wouldn't consider that a good thing.

BroomJockey

08-10-2009, 07:32 PM

Normally when someone says that a person has lived more than their age suggests, it means that they had a harsh life. I wouldn't consider that a good thing.

I dunno that's I'd necessarily use the term "harsh life." After all, if someone had a college degree, had done volunteer teaching overseas, and worked to support themselves through it all, I'd say they've lived a lot, especially if they've done it by my age. I'd not be ashamed to say they've probably done more than I. Lots of volunteer work and self-sufficiency would be a sign of maturity in someone as young as me. Personally, I'm barely self-sufficient. Once I've set myself up a bit better, I hope to actually start doing something besides working and building an encyclopaedic knowledge of movies.

Nyoibo

08-10-2009, 08:01 PM

The risk of birth defects, especially down's syndrome, increases the older a woman is when she gives birth. Until we get genetic engineering down, I would prefer to limit the number of deformities in the future.

Waiting until older is different to haveing a kid while still a teenager

On topic, and a proper response would be to point out that maturity isn't really tied to chronological age, and it's possible to live in the world and get experience enough before a woman's even 25. It's a fair bet the mother was spoilt or sheltered in some fashion during her youth, as well.

The thing is, she wasn't 25 when she had the kid, she was 17, you really don't get much life experience at that age.

BroomJockey

08-10-2009, 08:07 PM

The thing is, she wasn't 25 when she had the kid, she was 17, you really don't get much life experience at that age.

Sorry, was speaking in generalities, not specific to this case, since there was the subtangent of barbiegirl's, and then Flyn assuming you need to be like, old old to have maturity and life experience.

Flyndaran

08-10-2009, 08:12 PM

Sorry, was speaking in generalities, not specific to this case, since there was the subtangent of barbiegirl's, and then Flyn assuming you need to be like, old old to have maturity and life experience.

Not old old, but over 30 usually.

Nyoibo

08-10-2009, 08:16 PM

Ah, gotcha.

BroomJockey

08-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Not old old, but over 30 usually.

Over 30 IS old old. For another 4 years. :p

Barbiegirl

08-11-2009, 12:47 AM

The risk of birth defects, especially down's syndrome, increases the older a woman is when she gives birth. Until we get genetic engineering down, I would prefer to limit the number of deformities in the future.

True but she's only 28 now, which means she was 17 when she had the kid. If she had waited until she was around 23 she would have had the chance to get a job and pay bills and had a better head on her shoulders.
It's usually the late 30's early 40's that more of the birth defects show up.

Flyndaran

08-11-2009, 06:20 AM

True but she's only 28 now, which means she was 17 when she had the kid. If she had waited until she was around 23 she would have had the chance to get a job and pay bills and had a better head on her shoulders.
It's usually the late 30's early 40's that more of the birth defects show up.

I stand corrected.

Lace Neil Singer

08-11-2009, 12:46 PM

In any case, this topic isn't about birth defects or old mothers vs young mothers; it's about the lifestyle choice of spoiling an 11 year old rotten with material goods.

I can't help but wonder what will happen when this child starts secondary school; will her possessions be stolen or damaged? She's supposedly a "ringleader" in primary school; that to my mind, usually means "bully".

XCashier

08-16-2009, 06:18 AM

I can also foresee many problems with her sister; yeah, now she doesn't like designer labels, being only five; however when she gets older and sees her sister being spoiled rotten with expensive stuff and not her, she's going to get very resentful and jealous. I personally think it's incredibly stupid, even verging on spiteful, to favour a child over another like this.
That really bothered me too. Bad enough the parents are stupidly spoiling one child, they've gone completely the other direction with the second. Favoring one child over another, especially to those extremes, can create a lot of tension and resentment in a family. It can also lead to feelings of self-hatred and worthlessness, possibly leading to suicide. :(

Those parents are profoundly, severely stupid, and the kids will bear the brunt of it.

Wingates_Hellsing

08-16-2009, 11:25 AM

Hopefully, the deprived one will go on to be a mature and successful individual, after all, it's her turn. If the other one ends up in the gutter, I can't say I'd care that much, but she's still human.

Even more hopefully, the parents will run out of money when the spoilt one starts needing cars (yeah, plural) and houses (plural again :D) and manage to get a picture of their faces when the repo man comes a knocking.

...I'm an unkind person :o

Seriously though, I just can't wrap my head around the insanity of these parent's attitude. It's like the usual motivation to make your childs life better taken to the most ill executed extreme in the history of bad plans. Do they not have freinds to tel them what they're doing?

PepperElf

08-17-2009, 04:48 PM

she's 11?
she looks like she's ready to go out to the club and get laid.

seriously that's a major prosti-tot outfit she has on.

as for the sister - don't forget about hand-me-downs

Lace Neil Singer

08-17-2009, 08:39 PM

Actually in the article, the mother states that she gives all Brogan's handmedowns to the Oxfam shop. So the sister gets nothing.

Nyoibo

08-18-2009, 12:19 AM

she's 11?
she looks like she's ready to go out to the club and get laid.

She's a chav, she probably is.

Boozy

08-18-2009, 12:31 PM

She's a chav, she probably is.

Need I remind everyone that this is an eleven year-old child we're talking about?

Nyoibo

08-18-2009, 02:20 PM

Need I remind everyone that this is an eleven year-old child we're talking about?

That hasn't stopped them before Alfie (http://www.smh.com.au/world/13yearold-father-alfie-the-victim-of-cash-scam-girlfriends-family-friend-says-20090219-8bq0.html) was one, ok having sex at 12 not eleven, but the mother was 14 at the time, In the US "-Nationally, one-quarter of 15 year old females and less than 30% of 15 year old males have had sex" just because they're a "child" doesn't mean they aren't doing it.

Boozy

08-18-2009, 03:01 PM

I realize that, but I still find it distasteful to be speculating about an 11 year-old's "sex" life. There's nothing in the article to indicate that's she's sexually active or has been sexually abused, so I don't see any reason to be talking about it.

MystyGlyttyr

08-18-2009, 04:19 PM

If I had been in school with this girl, I'd have probably ended up kicking her ass at least once. They say she's "the ringleader" but I can pretty much promise you that all the other girls HATE her, behind her back and maybe even to her face. That's just how girls work. And if they don't, her sister sure as hell will.

And the saddest part of all is that the story makes it OBVIOUS that on some level she knows there's something wrong with the way things are, but she's just 11 and she doesn't know how to fix it, she just plain doesn't know any better, but in a way she's still TRYING, and her parents are too lazy and stupid to work with her and make any headway on correcting things.

If that's not on the top ten list for the ultimate real life Greek tragedy, I don't know what is.

AdminAssistant

08-18-2009, 05:56 PM

If that's not on the top ten list for the ultimate real life Greek tragedy, I don't know what is.

Hm...possibly. But hubris can't be ascribed to the child, at least, not yet. The parents, perhaps. Only time will tell who takes the 'tragic flaw'.

tropicsgoddess

08-19-2009, 11:52 PM

Good grief, how the hell can they afford all that stuff and they aren't rich?!! That is just epic parenting fail,that kid is going to be one of those entitlement minded high maintenance bitches when she grows up.

Parrothead

09-20-2009, 07:48 PM

Half of their income goes to that kid, and they have no savings, according to the article.

Lace Neil Singer

09-21-2009, 11:57 AM

I wonder what will happen in that family when the money dries up and they no longer can afford to spend so much money on Brogan?

Also, update: http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2618034/Mum-of-a-child-lavished-with-clothes-is-a-benefits-cheat.html

Aethian

10-12-2009, 03:12 AM

I wonder what would happen if a fire took out their flat. Are they prepared to replace everything?

XCashier

10-12-2009, 04:14 AM

I wonder what would happen if a fire took out their flat. Are they prepared to replace everything?
That's a very good question. I wonder if their little darling will have a nuclear meltdown at the loss of all her expensive possessions, and if the family will end up declaring bankruptcy. And the younger child will still get ignored. :(