The Bible is too liberal

[Akasa]

At least that's what they are saying at Conservapedia. In fact they have a whole project to rewrite the Bible.

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

I wonder if they'll get rid of that pansy ass Jesus in the second book.

[BroomJockey]

They've had that project for a while, and the entire site is full of whack-jobs. Some of them make Phelps look like a Commie.

[smileyeagle1021]

I am at a loss for words... honestly... I never thought I'd hear someone complain about the Bible, the most conservative literature on the planet (well, perhaps the Koran is more conservative) , being too liberal.

[Flyndaran]

Eh, holy books are so internally inconsistent that anyone can "make" it say anything they want. The fact that some are too lazy and or stupid to do it, just goes to show everyone their true colors.

[Lady_Foxfire]

I am at a loss for words... honestly... I never thought I'd hear someone complain about the Bible, the most conservative literature on the planet (well, perhaps the Koran is more conservative) , being too liberal.

Depends on how you define conservative. The Bible actually contains quite a few passages that seem to support communism and sharing your wealth, which is quite contrary to conservative economic policies. Also, Jesus promoted helping the poor, not bragging about your religious piety in public, and not seeking material wealth, all of which are not practices I see being espoused by the "Christian Conservative" movement.

[MergedLoki]

Nothing says 'sacred' like rewriting a religious book for your own gain.

sidenote: apparently the koran IS fairly accepting of others views etc. it's (just like ultra right wing conservative christians do with teh bible) simply certain people twisting it and taking selected passages TOO far that gives us the view of koran and muslims etc. that is widely held today.

[lordlundar]

Nothing says 'sacred' like rewriting a religious book for your own gain.

You make it sound like it's something new.:D

The Bible has been rewritten so many times that it's no longer anywhere NEAR what is suspected to be the original.

[Flyndaran]

You make it sound like it's something new.:D

The Bible has been rewritten so many times that it's no longer anywhere NEAR what is suspected to be the original.

If there even was an original or if that Jesus guy ever lived.

[guywithashovel]

It seems that people in these fringe groups perceive a "liberal bias" in just about everything. They complain about all the news networks being "liberal." They complain about the entertainment industry being "liberal." Evidently even the Bible has been infected with this ominous virus known as "liberal bias."

[MergedLoki]

Well I mean come on. Jesus was a liberal...

just look at it.

- He had a beard and long hair

- He hung out with poor people

- One of his friends was a whore

- He gave away his money.

Now old testament god was a conservative.

the ol 'i'll drown your ass if you don't go along with what I say!' way of thinking lol:) (just trying to shed some humor on it all folks :P)

[fireheart17]

It seems that people in these fringe groups perceive a "liberal bias" in just about everything. They complain about all the news networks being "liberal." They complain about the entertainment industry being "liberal." Evidently even the Bible has been infected with this ominous virus known as "liberal bias."

Maybe they should consider creating their own news channel that's anything but "liberal."

[BroomJockey]

Maybe they should consider creating their own news channel that's anything but "liberal."

They did. It's called "Fox News."

[Savannah]

Now I have a mental image of someone going "The Bible is the literal Word of God and we must obey it, but it's wrong so we must change it!"

[Arcade Man D]

If there even was an original or if that Jesus guy ever lived.

Whether or not you believe in Him as the son of God, there was most certainly a young man born in Bethlehem, whose parents, Joseph and Mary, went there due to the census instituted by the regional Roman Governor. And his name was Yeshua (or, in English, Jesus). He was raised in Nazareth, helping his father while learning the craft of carpentry.

He was also crucified in the mid-30s, during the Passover season, as a rebel.

All of these were gleaned from remains and Roman record-keeping. They were meticulous record keepers.

(Summation: All historical evidence points to the existence of a religious leader named Yeshua, who was of the lineage of David, and he was the son of a Carpenter. He was executed by the Roman Empire because he posed a threat to the entrenched power bases.

Whether or not he was the Son of God, both fully human and fully divine, or simply a very charismatic religious leader with some really good social ideas, that's where the matter of faith begins.)

[Gravekeeper]

<snip>All of these were gleaned from remains and Roman record-keeping. They were meticulous record keepers.


He was also a brown skinned Jew. But that doesn't get in the way of the whole snow white blue eyed American Jesus(tm) thing either. >.>

[DesignFox]

Now I have a mental image of someone going "The Bible is the literal Word of God and we must obey it, but it's wrong so we must change it!"

Isn't this what all religions do to some extent? :p

[Flyndaran]

...
(Summation: All historical evidence points to the existence of a religious leader named Yeshua, who was of the lineage of David, and he was the son of a Carpenter. He was executed by the Roman Empire because he posed a threat to the entrenched power bases.

Whether or not he was the Son of God, both fully human and fully divine, or simply a very charismatic religious leader with some really good social ideas, that's where the matter of faith begins.)

There are far too many inconsistencies and plain wrong facts to rationally accept that a single person Jesus existed. You may accept it as a matter of faith, but as an atheist I have higher standards.

[Gravekeeper]

There are far too many inconsistencies and plain wrong facts to rationally accept that a single person Jesus existed. You may accept it as a matter of faith, but as an atheist I have higher standards.

I believe Jesus existed in some form. There is enough evidence to support at least that much. I do not, however, believe he was the son of God. He was a mortal man. A teacher, and a guy with some good ideas ( That suspiciously sounded Buddhist ) but a mortal man. Both Jesus Christ and Sidhatta Gautama had similar teaching styles and similar lessons. Despite being hundreds of years apart.

I think the whole divinity part was penciled in and overblown later to make him sound more impressive. Considering his whole birth story seems oddly similar to Gautama's from centuries earlier. Which I'm sure is oddly similar to some other story centuries before that.

If you want your religion to compete in the ancient world, you have to make it sound impressive. Either that or just wipe out every other religion, as Christianity was want to do quite a bit later on.

[smileyeagle1021]

but as an atheist I have higher standards.

I will call you on that... you have higher standards because you are an intelligent person, not because you are an atheist... I've known several ignorant atheists in my lifetime who's standards have been just barely above "well, they said it on the evening news, so it must be true".

[Flyndaran]

I will call you on that... you have higher standards because you are an intelligent person, not because you are an atheist... I've known several ignorant atheists in my lifetime who's standards have been just barely above "well, they said it on the evening news, so it must be true".

I meant higher standards for religious claims, but I concede your point. :)