Smug vegetarian on "Come Dine With Me" [Archive]

Lace Neil Singer

10-19-2009, 05:00 PM

I watched an episode of Come Dine With Me, and one guy was a vegetarian who was unbearably smug. Honestly, I would have smacked him one if I'd been there.

For the Americans; Come Dine With Me is a programme where four different people cook meals for the group and then give marks out of ten. Whoever gets the highest score wins £1000. On this episode, the guy Ray stood out as a total arsehole. He talked about himself the whole time and tried to convert everyone.

Seriously, watch this episode and tell me what you think.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/come-dine-with-me/4od

Scroll down to Series 8 Episode 5.

Flyndaran

10-21-2009, 07:50 PM

Jerks are jerks no matter their dining preferences.
I may have respect for those able to stay vegetarian, because it is an unnatural human diet. But I wouldn't tolerate a smug bastard.

Weird, I could deal with a vegetarian saddened, grossed out, or horror stricken at meat dishes, but smug crosses a line for me.

Lace Neil Singer

10-22-2009, 03:36 PM

One of my friends is like that; grossed out, I mean. She can't bear to watch people eating meat; so if we go out to eat, we tend to visit pizza places so that she doesn't have to. Somehow it doesn't count for pepperoni. XD

I may have respect for those able to stay vegetarian, because it is an unnatural human diet. But I wouldn't tolerate a smug bastard.
Heh. XD Finally, we agree on something, :D You're right; there's just something about smug that gets your teeth on edge. -.-

DesignFox

10-22-2009, 06:23 PM

It's the whole "I'm better than you attitude." It doesn't seem to matter what it is, but when someone gets like that, most people can't deal with it.

I don't mind if you do your thing and I do mine. But keep the "holier than thou" shit to yourself. That just makes you an ass.

RecoveringKinkoid

10-28-2009, 07:41 PM

I agree, and I have met more than one vegetarian that was not content to just do their thing while I do mine.

I have the teeth of an omnivore for a reason. I have canines. So you do. You don't want to use yours, fine. More charred corpse for me.

It annoys the hell out of me when I have to hear how my diet is "bloody" or "cruel" or "barbaric." That is the world, right there, and my kind evolved here. So if you don't want to eat meat, fine. If you don't want ME to eat it, how about this? Eat me.

I don't sit there and say what I think about other people's great love of alfalfa. I don't deserve to be called names over the choices I make for my own health.

I'm sure there are plenty of vegetarians here and so far, I don't mean any of you. It's the ones that sit there when I'm trying to eat my food and pretend that they are about to vomit because they saw some bacon. Oh, for crying out loud, grow a pair, eh?

I once said, on an anti sugar board, that grains should not replace more nutrient dense food such as brocolli and blueberries and the next thing I knew some dickless little creep who clearly needed more protien in his diet was banging on about how meat eaters were evil. How he made that leap, I'm not sure. Like I said, maybe he needed some bacon. Idiot.

violetyoshi

10-28-2009, 11:37 PM

Don't forget the Vegan women, and how it seems their thing is to prance around naked where ever they go.

Cat

10-29-2009, 02:58 AM

I love the feeling of my canines ripping in to a succulent vegetable :)

I've seen more asshole veg*ns online, and more asshole omnis in real life. Stupidity runs rampant on all sides (same can be side for any ideology or belief system)

RecoveringKinkoid

10-29-2009, 03:50 AM

I've seen more asshole veg*ns online, and more asshole omnis in real life.

You know what? You are absolutely right. What is up with that? It's true.

BroomJockey

10-29-2009, 04:46 AM

vegans are too malnourished to put up any kind of fight outside. ;)

Rapscallion

10-29-2009, 07:12 AM

[QUOTE=Cat;35731]

I've seen more asshole veg*ns online, and more asshole omnis in real life. QUOTE]

You know what? You are absolutely right. What is up with that? It's true.

You'll see more arseholes online because there's a break between them and their opponents - it's safe having the barrier of the computer screen between them.

Rapscallion

Cat

10-29-2009, 10:51 AM

vegans are too malnourished to put up any kind of fight outside. ;)

Ha, I'm mostly vegan an pretty bloody healthy....."true" vegans are just trying to get an army of vampire carrots to do their deeds :)

(ok, terrible joke, but its early and I need stuff to read at work)

guywithashovel

10-30-2009, 04:29 AM

vegans are too malnourished to put up any kind of fight outside. ;)

Tell that to these guys. ;)

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

fireheart17

10-31-2009, 09:21 AM

Don't forget the Vegan women, and how it seems their thing is to prance around naked where ever they go.

I didn't realise there was a link between veganism and naturism.

Or for that matter, veganism and choosing to go skyclad. Can you explain?

Cat

10-31-2009, 01:22 PM

I didn't realise there was a link between veganism and naturism.

Or for that matter, veganism and choosing to go skyclad. Can you explain?

Maybe the gals just like showin' off the boobies? :) ( I don't......well, not in public)

Boozy

10-31-2009, 02:07 PM

I know several vegans, and I have never seen them naked. Thank the lord.

RecoveringKinkoid

11-02-2009, 04:41 AM

Yeah, I was wondering not only where the hell all this is going on, but how does anyone know what the naked people are eating?

Maybe things are different here, but I'm thinking if I ever saw a naked person, say, in the produce section of the Piggly Wiggly, I don't think my first reaction would be to say "hey, so, are you going to be stopping by the meat section at any point today?"

I mean, I think that would just be a little forward.

kiwi

11-02-2009, 05:05 AM

Don't forget the Vegan women, and how it seems their thing is to prance around naked where ever they go.

Why is this a bad thing? The more naked chicks the better IMO :D

RecoveringKinkoid

11-02-2009, 05:20 AM

So, Violetyoshi, how do you know they are naked where ever they go? Do you follow them where ever they go?

Man. It must be so boring here in SC.

Lace Neil Singer

11-02-2009, 01:04 PM

In the winter, they'd catch their death! XD

I watched the episode again. I still want to smack Ray. XD

blas87

11-02-2009, 04:36 PM

What's a Piggly Wiggly?

RecoveringKinkoid

11-02-2009, 04:49 PM

The Pig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggly_Wiggly) is a grocery store chain in the south.

jackfaire

11-03-2009, 01:47 PM

I will believe a Vegan actually cares about animals when they refuse to kill any. Their farming machines kill animals too. Their farming destroys the natural habitat of animals. They probably swat flies or kill spiders like everyone else (I have seen some that have done so in front of me) When they stop doing that stuff then I will believe they actually care.

Cat

11-03-2009, 03:47 PM

It really about not harming as much as possible. Noone's perfect. And those farm machines do indeed kill a great deal on critters, but some of that food being harvested goes on to feed meat as well...nit just a veg lifestyle.

I have more respect for people who raise theie food, be it animal or veg.

Yikes, OT and I need to actually work.

jackfaire

11-04-2009, 04:39 AM

What do you consider to be not harming?

(To Everyone)

I dislike when a vegan says, "I am vegan because I am Buddhist"

Arcade Man D

11-05-2009, 01:34 PM

It really about not harming as much as possible. Noone's perfect. And those farm machines do indeed kill a great deal on critters, but some of that food being harvested goes on to feed meat as well...nit just a veg lifestyle.

Actually, the farm machines used to harvest grains for 1 vegan's consumption kill over ten times as many animals as are killed for 1 carnivore's consumption.

Lace Neil Singer

11-05-2009, 02:59 PM

http://i.abcnews.com/Technology/story?id=97836&page=1

Linkie to back Arcademan's views.

Cat

11-05-2009, 06:52 PM

I don't see the 10 times mentioned in that article. I know growing crops kills animals, noone will deny that.

I'm sorry I diverted the OT, I didn't mean to.

http://www.animalvisuals.org/data/1mc/ is a different view on how many animals are killed.

But to get back on topic, any one who is snug and rubs their beliefs in people's faces is a jackass, and makes anyone else in that "group" look bad.

(last off-topic comment: I so want to visit a Piggly-Wiggly. No idea why, I just need to see one)

Lace Neil Singer

11-05-2009, 07:18 PM

My article didn't have the ten times; I should have clarified that I was backing up his statement about vegetarians/vegans causing animals to be killed.

But to get back on topic, any one who is snug and rubs their beliefs in people's faces is a jackass, and makes anyone else in that "group" look bad.
And that applies to everyone, in any group you could name.

Boozy

11-05-2009, 10:32 PM

Actually, the farm machines used to harvest grains for 1 vegan's consumption kill over ten times as many animals as are killed for 1 carnivore's consumption.

I've tried my best, but I can't make any sense of this.

What is one comparing to get to this "10 times" figure? The amount of grain one ingests in their daily diet? Do vegans eat ten times the amount of grain as a carnivore?

Even if we knew that to be true, it still doesn't make a lick of sense. It presumes that cows, chickens, and pigs - the staples of an American carnivore's diet - spring fully formed from a vacuum. But of course they don't.

They are raised. On grain.

Beef cattle will eat on average about 60 pounds of grain a day. That grain is grown and harvested using machines, too.

Arcade Man D

11-06-2009, 02:45 AM

I've tried my best, but I can't make any sense of this.

What is one comparing to get to this "10 times" figure? The amount of grain one ingests in their daily diet? Do vegans eat ten times the amount of grain as a carnivore?

Even if we knew that to be true, it still doesn't make a lick of sense. It presumes that cows, chickens, and pigs - the staples of an American carnivore's diet - spring fully formed from a vacuum. But of course they don't.

They are raised. On grain.

Beef cattle will eat on average about 60 pounds of grain a day. That grain is grown and harvested using machines, too.

I've looked pretty much all day, and I remember seeing the 10 times figure, but I can't find it any more. Might have been a misremembering, but I do know the figure was that grain harvesting kills more animals than intentionally killing animals for meat, *and* the meat goes to waste in the former case, instead of being used.

Rapscallion

11-06-2009, 07:22 AM

Ten times the number - even if we find a decent source to back that up, I have to ask if the life of a cow or sheep or chicken is comparable the life of a rodent or insect?

I don't have an answer to this. A life is a life is a life? If so, then bacteria are formally alive and therefore protected. Is a cow worth more because it's more advanced on the evolutionary scale? Both it and a rat are alive.

Odd tangent.

Rapscallion

Cat

11-06-2009, 11:34 AM

Well, for me, its more my disgust at the slaughterhouses....I have no problems with people who raise/hunt their own meat (in the US, you're not allowed to sell beef or pork that you have slaughtered yourself, but you're allowed to eat it. Poultry is different, from my understanding)

Being chewed in up in far, equipment is a horrid way to go, yes, and I wish I knew of way to eat to avoid that, but until I have my dream garden *sigh*

Ugh, sorry again to diverge the topic. I do love this thread, it helps pass the work week

BroomJockey

11-06-2009, 04:05 PM

the life of a rodent or insect?

It's not just rodents and insects that get munched by farming equipment. Depending on what area, you've got foxes, badgers, occasionally deer, if you're really unlucky, a wolf. Though it'd be a pretty stupid wolf. But anyway, my point is, great numbers of large animals get toasted by large farming equipment because the operator can't see/avoid them. I don't think it's particularly fair to pin it on vegans, though.

Rapscallion

11-06-2009, 04:20 PM

Same principle - which animal is more deserving of more respect due to being alive or larger or more sentient?

Tangent, though.

Rapscallion

Flyndaran

11-06-2009, 11:18 PM

Same principle - which animal is more deserving of more respect due to being alive or larger or more sentient?

Tangent, though.

Rapscallion

Connected tangent: what makes a human being deserving of respect? If it isn't intelligence, then why shouldn't we treat animals the same as people? If it is intelligence, then why aren't the retarded treated like second class citizens?