6-year old facing eviction

[IDrinkaRum]

because she lives with her grandparents in a retirement community that says only people 55 and older can live there year around (http://news.aol.com/article/kimberly-broffman-faces-eviction-from/733585?icid=main|aim|dl1|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.a ol.com%2Farticle%2Fkimberly-broffman-faces-eviction-from%2F733585)

Anyone younger, can only stay 60 days out of the month.

Little girl has lived with grandparents since she was a baby. Her mother is a chronic drug abuser. To keep her out of the system, the grandparents are taking care of her.

The HOA has sued them and trying to get a judge to kick the child out for violating HOA covenants.

Also, grandparents are trying to sell house to move elsewhere, but with the house market the way it is, they can't find a buyer as of yet.

Little girl might have to end up in foster care because of this until the grandparents can sell their house.

[Crazedclerkthe2nd]

This is a prime example of why I think Homeowners Associations are evil.

[Flyndaran]

That's horribly sad, but not in a "the big meanies are trying to hurt teh children" way. More in a lose/lose situation. The grandparents must have known they were breaking the rules and were just too lazy or whatever to fix it before it became a problem. I mean come on, for six years they did nothing? A bit of entitlement hoes in my opinion. Too bad a child has to suffer.

This is a prime example of why I think Homeowners Associations are evil.

Because they didn't enforce their rules for six years hoping the grandparents would move or find a home for the child?

Honestly, I hate HOAs as much as the next guy. But they chose to move there, and they chose to break the rules, and not do anything for six years.
They wore our my sympathy a couple of calendars ago.

If I were a senior, I would want to live in an area full of people my age. What's wrong with that?

[XCashier]

But they chose to move there, and they chose to break the rules, and not do anything for six years.
They wore our my sympathy a couple of calendars ago.
How long ago did they move there, and how long have they been trying to sell their home? The story does not have all the facts. Sometimes it takes years to sell a home, especially in a bad market like this. They may have been there before the girl was born, and have been trying to sell the place when they took custody.

It is a shame the child has to suffer because of all of this. I sure hope this can get straightened out quickly and the family can stay together.

[Flyndaran]

How long ago did they move there, and how long have they been trying to sell their home? The story does not have all the facts. Sometimes it takes years to sell a home, especially in a bad market like this. They may have been there before the girl was born, and have been trying to sell the place when they took custody.
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It says that the child has been with them since infancy or even birth. If they had her when they moved in, then they have no reason to be upset. They had to lie to everyone to get the house.
I was assuming they had the house, then got the child. That at least deserves a little sympathy, even if they failed to move in over six years.
As we both agree, though, tough break for the kid.

[Boozy]

From the article:

Kimberly's mother has a chronic drug problem, which led the Stottlers to take custody of the girl four years ago.

They've had the child for four years.

They couldn't sell their home four years ago? I call bullshit. The housing market was on fire four years ago. But they didn't try to sell, because they didn't think a) they'd get caught, or b) the HOA would enforce the rule. They were wrong. Now it's going to cost them.

I doubt the little girl will end up in foster care. It will be a shame if she does, because it's not her fault that her mother's a drug addict and her grandparents are irresponsible and poor planners.

[Kimmik]

I have to agree with Flyn that the only victim here is the poor child. Some folks like HoA's because of the strict rules... me I am not an HoA fan at all, especially coming from Cali, but it is the HoA's job to enforce the rules.

[HYHYBT]

In a similar situation, it probably wouldn't even *cross my mind* that it would be an HOA violation until someone pointed it out; so naturally only then would I start looking into whether there could be exceptions and afterwards trying to move.

[Flyndaran]

In a similar situation, it probably wouldn't even *cross my mind* that it would be an HOA violation until someone pointed it out; so naturally only then would I start looking into whether there could be exceptions and afterwards trying to move.

A living facility with only the elderly and not a single youth wouldn't make you think that it was a senior citizen only area?
That would be one of my first questions on taking a tour of the area.

[Mr Slugger]

As others have said it's sad, but a 55 plus place is a 55 plus place for a reason. They are older people who don't want kids around other than visits. So I don't fault the management of the housing development. They're just enforcing the rules.

The grand parents who knows maybe the management didn't notice for a while and it was only after a while did they notice and attempt to kick them out. Or maybe it's like up here where they built way too many over 55 communities and they've been a tough sell for years here because of that. Or now yes they can't sell the house because of the market.

I honestly don't think the kid will end up in foster care. The news attention honestly will stop that. There will be some kind of compromise. Whether it's from the property management, a kind hearted person, etc.

[jackfaire]

Honestly, I hate HOAs as much as the next guy. But they chose to move there, and they chose to break the rules, and not do anything for six years.
They wore our my sympathy a couple of calendars ago.

Actually not always. When I was 15 my family bought a home in a normal neighborhood. About 4 years later most of the neighbors instituted an HOA since we lived there prior to it we didn't have to listen to them but they more than once threatened legal action to get us to do so.

[Flyndaran]

Actually not always. When I was 15 my family bought a home in a normal neighborhood. About 4 years later most of the neighbors instituted an HOA since we lived there prior to it we didn't have to listen to them but they more than once threatened legal action to get us to do so.

People can demand compliance to anything. But having an actual case is another thing entirely.

[kiwi]

Anyone younger, can only stay 60 days out of the month.

wow thats one loooong month :D

[IDrinkaRum]

wow thats one loooong month :D

Oh god!

60 days out of the YEAR!

Thank you:)

I was tired when I wrote it. :p

[suchislife2]

I'm torn. I think at the end of the day we still don't have the full picture.

The report said something about them trying to sell the house for the past 4? years. It is a retierment village so it MIGHT be harder to move than any normalyhouse.

For all we know they HOA knew the situation but thought it was temporary. OR they don't mind BECAUSE f the situation but a lot of people complained and so have had to put their foot down.

OR HOA are assholes and the grandparents are idiots who didn't plan ahead.

Either way the only person losing out is the child. But with media attention me thinks something will happe. It might bring some kind hearted soal out of the woodwork who a) buys the house b) buys them a new house/rents them a place while they try to sell or c) talks the HOA into waiting till the sale happens.

Till then I think I won't make any judgements....I just can't

[Flyndaran]

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Till then I think I won't make any judgements....I just can't

This is the internet, home of the half-informed snap judgment. ;)

[HEMI6point1]

My parents and I live in a 55+ HOA community.

One of my neighbors told me a rather crappy story a couple of months ago. He bought his house when the HOA was all-ages. A couple of years afterward, it became 55+ (actually it was 55+ before according to him but for a couple of years the HOA was "pressured" to become all-ages, probably to look better in the booming housing market).

Now technically, he was supposed to be grandfathered in to the previous rules ie: kids. However, he got a rather nasty letter from the HOA telling him he has 2 weeks to remove his daughter otherwise legal action will be taken against him forcing him to put his house up for sale.

They backed up when he sic'ed his own lawyer against them.

[jackfaire]

I will never ever buy a home in an HOA. I will follow city laws and such but I will not allow others to decide how I will live.