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Lace Neil Singer
11-30-2009, 02:19 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231935/Bishop-rubbishes-Christmas-carols-silly-inaccurate-embarrassing.html

I can kind of see the point, but ffs; most of these songs are sung by children, so why ruin their fun?
RecoveringKinkoid
11-30-2009, 02:54 PM
Bet this guy is fun at parties.
jackfaire
11-30-2009, 10:14 PM
Uhm so this guy thinks that christmas carols are why people turn away from the church?

Seriously?
kiwi
11-30-2009, 11:40 PM
Someone needs to take the stick out of his arse! Give me a break!
Parrothead
12-01-2009, 03:10 AM
So, he doesn't like "Away in a Manger" and "Once in Royal David's City" because they claim unnatural things about Christ ("no crying He makes" for example), but has no problem with, say, "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer"?



....Ok....
HYHYBT
12-01-2009, 06:20 AM
"Rudolph" is not a carol.
Wingates_Hellsing
12-01-2009, 09:36 AM
Uhm, isn't it possible that the no crying is only meant to describe the period of time the song depicts? the space of a few hours at most... and if so, how is that not possible?

This guy's just missing the point, he'd miss the point if it flew down from the sky, beamed him up, and probed his... nevermind... :o
kiwi
12-01-2009, 02:48 PM
Ironic that a bishop doesn't get symbolism.... utterly ironic.
RecoveringKinkoid
12-01-2009, 06:49 PM
but has no problem with, say, "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer"?

..

That right there ought to tell you somethign about the dude's state of mind. Even I hate Rudolph the Red nosed reindeer. ;)
DesignFox
12-02-2009, 11:33 PM
What a hard ass. Who pissed in his cheerios this holiday?

And I like Rudolph *puppy face*
fireheart17
12-03-2009, 12:26 AM
As far as carols in general go, I have no problem with most of them. The same issue came up down here in Australia. I don't mind a few of them-in fact, some of the earliest songs I learnt to play on my flute were Christmas carols.

IMHO, this was almost as ridiculous as Santa being told to say "ha ha ha" because "ho ho ho" seemed to be calling kids hoes o.O
jackfaire
12-03-2009, 12:28 AM
IMHO, this was almost as ridiculous as Santa being told to say "ha ha ha" because "ho ho ho" seemed to be calling kids hoes o.O

I always figured he was just telling the farmer elves to get to work
RecoveringKinkoid
12-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Oh, I like the little Rudolph movie.

It's kind of sick. But I like it.

The song? GAaaaaah.....
RootedPhoenix
12-04-2009, 02:26 AM
Bet this guy is fun at parties.

Yeah, really.

This bit gets to me.

'Once In Royal David's City has Jesus as "our childhood's pattern" - even though we know almost nothing of his childhood - and invites children to be "mild, obedient, good as he", which means what, exactly? This sounds suspiciously like Victorian behaviour control.

It's like nobody's ever allowed to use logic or imagination. Ever.

I mean, logically, if Jesus was an nice adult, then isn't there just a smidgen of a chance that he might have been a nice kid too?

There's also the fact that the song is trying to say "Hey, be nice to people. Here's an example of how that's done."

I thought holiday songs were for enjoyment? Not to get your underwear in a knot over? Wild.
Boozy
12-04-2009, 01:51 PM
He's a Catholic theologian -- this is what he does. No one has to listen to him, and no one has to agree with him. But his job is to educate Catholics, so he needs to point these things out.

It would be like your science teacher telling you that when you said "as light as air" while recounting a story to your friends in class, you were wrong because air weighs more than you think, blah blah blah.

You'd roll your eyes and make fun of the lame-ass science teacher later on, but that doesn't change the fact that your science teacher was right to correct what he perceived as a scientific misconception in one of his students.
Fryk
12-04-2009, 03:44 PM
Would this guy be happier if we all wrote christmas carols about Mary changing Jesus's shitty diapers, or that time he got into trouble for throwing dirt clogs at old people in town?
protege
12-04-2009, 07:25 PM
Who pissed in his cheerios this holiday?

Apparently Rudolph did :D
RecoveringKinkoid
12-04-2009, 09:06 PM
Would this guy be happier if we all wrote christmas carols about Mary changing Jesus's shitty diapers, or that time he got into trouble for throwing dirt clogs at old people in town?

I know I would. I want hear about the dirt clods. :D

Probably going to hell for that.
jackfaire
12-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Apparently Rudolph did :D

Well you know Reindeer games and all that
Fryk
12-05-2009, 01:19 AM
I know I would. I want hear about the dirt clods. :D

Probably going to hell for that.

(The following is sung to the tune of "O Christmas Tree")

O Dirty Clogs! O Dirty Clogs!
That Jesus threw at people! O Dirty Clogs! O Dirty Clogs!
That Jesus threw at people!
He threw them all so heavenly,
At people passing in the street!
That is, of course, That is, of course
Until ol' Joseph beat him!
DesignFox
12-05-2009, 03:14 AM
Would this guy be happier if we all wrote christmas carols about Mary changing Jesus's shitty diapers, or that time he got into trouble for throwing dirt clogs at old people in town?

Apparently Rudolph did :D

Well you know Reindeer games and all that

Thank you all for the LOL. :D
RecoveringKinkoid
12-05-2009, 05:52 AM
Well, it looks like hell will at least be full of people I enjoy talking to. :D
DesignFox
12-06-2009, 06:27 PM
Well, it looks like hell will at least be full of people I enjoy talking to. :D

It's always seemed that way to me... My friends and I joke that we've got first class tickets in the basket and VIP seating for the show.

Seriously, if heaven is full of people like THAT GUY, I don't wanna go there.
Parrothead
12-10-2009, 10:04 PM
Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

(Paraphrased from Mark Twain (I think))
Fryk
12-11-2009, 04:02 PM
Hell (TM)-- It's a Dry Heat!!