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jackfaire
01-29-2010, 11:59 PM
If you were to take maternity leave depending on your job either someone would temporarily replace you or your coworkers would just cover down.

If your an actor that is decidedly more difficult. If the character you play is integral to the show and you insist on Maternity leave putting the show on hold should you be allowed to do that?

Thoughts?

AdminAssistant
01-30-2010, 01:45 AM
An issue like maternity leave presents a writing challenge. However, you phrased that in a very interesting way. "Allowed"? If the actor is pregnant....yes, maternity leave should be "allowed." In fact, I'm pretty sure Equity/AFTRA/SAG have rules in effect for maternity leave.

jackfaire
01-30-2010, 01:55 AM
An issue like maternity leave presents a writing challenge. However, you phrased that in a very interesting way. "Allowed"? If the actor is pregnant....yes, maternity leave should be "allowed." In fact, I'm pretty sure Equity/AFTRA/SAG have rules in effect for maternity leave.

Let me clarify I mean in that should the show be entitled to write the actor out of the show without being able to be sued.

If for example your job let you go because you weren't going to be there because you were on Maternity leave they would be sued.

Some shows cannot air without certain characters being there. Ideally in an ensemble show one of the actors could leave the show for awhile for maternity show. Other shows take a very long break.

But what obligation does the show have to keep your character in if you have to be written out while you go on Maternity leave.

AdminAssistant
01-30-2010, 03:44 AM
But what obligation does the show have to keep your character in if you have to be written out while you go on Maternity leave.

It depends on the contract that the actor has with the producers and executives of the show. However, being 'written out of the show' amounts to being fired. IF a show chose to write a character out of a show, because the actor involved committed the horrible crime of getting pregnant, they would have to buy out their entire contract. And even that's iffy legal ground. Remember, every professional actor on TV is a member of SAG and/or AFTRA and has quite a bit of legal protection.

Or, they could do what every other place I know of does, and write around it, and pray the kid is born during a sabbatical. Actors, even TV actors, should be allowed to have families, and producers are usually happy to make allowances to make a particular actor happy. For example, if Cote de Pablo (Ziva, NCIS) decided she wanted to have a baby, Shane Brennan would bend over backwards to keep her on the show.

Lace Neil Singer
01-30-2010, 12:27 PM
Or, they could write it into the storyline. I think one of the soaps did that at one point.

BlaqueKatt
01-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Or, they could do what every other place I know of does, and write around it, and pray the kid is born during a sabbatical. <snip>For example, if Cote de Pablo (Ziva, NCIS) decided she wanted to have a baby, Shane Brennan would bend over backwards to keep her on the show.


How many people here watch Law and order SVU-how many know that Mariska Hargitay had a son on June 28, 2006-yup she filmed while pregnant-just wore very bulky jackets.....And Noah Wyle from ER had his character "written out" for a season(went to rehab for drug addiction)to spend time with his wife and newborn son.

AdminAssistant
01-30-2010, 02:42 PM
How many people here watch Law and order SVU-how many know that Mariska Hargitay had a son on June 28, 2006-yup she filmed while pregnant-just wore very bulky jackets.....And Noah Wyle from ER had his character "written out" for a season(went to rehab for drug addiction)to spend time with his wife and newborn son.

Yep, happens all the time! I mean, you wouldn't advocate other places firing people because they were pregnant, why should actors be any different?

IDrinkaRum
01-30-2010, 02:56 PM
On the show, Leverage (it's on TNT channel I think), one of the actresses on the show got pregnant. She didn't want to work full time whilst pregnant, so they brought in another character onto the show. They still show Pregnant Actress (she's the brunette from the Brit show Coupling), on the laptop the peoples use, but you only see her from the shoulders up and she's not there for every show (I think).

As for soap operas, they'd either write the prenancy into the show, or you'd see an actress all of a sudden being shot from behind a couch, a chair, sitting at a table, standing behind a table with a lare bouquet of flowers in front of the person, or carrying files. :D It was obvious they were trying to hide pregnancies.

As for writing a character out of the show because the actress is pregnant? That can be done with an open-ended writing out. ("i'm going away until I figure out if I want to stay with the group or whatever" - like in Leverage).

crashhelmet
02-03-2010, 07:17 AM
If I remember right, Hunter Tylo was fired from Melrose Place after she got pregnant. Ended up suing Aaron Spelling and won. I just don't remember if they took her character out of the show or if they replaced her with someone else.

Many other shows have found ways to either cover up the pregnancies or write them into the story lines. Night Court and Married With Children were both famous for that.

CH

draggar
02-03-2010, 12:07 PM
I know a lot of sports stars have clauses in their contracts that forbid them from doing activities that could be considered "dangerous" (bungee jumping, hang gliding etc..). I'm sure most actresses have a similar clause in their contracts in regards to pregnancy.

Ree
02-03-2010, 01:16 PM
I still recall Family Ties from the 80's when the mother, played by Meredith Baxter, was allegedly upstairs on bed rest for several episodes.

I believe she had actually just given birth to twins in real life, but they did write her pregnancy into the storyline.

For Phylicia Rashad on the Cosby Show, they filmed around her pregnancy and at one point, they even cut a hole in the mattress so her pregnant belly wouldn't stick up when the family visited her in her bedroom where she was allegedly confined to bed with a pinched nerve.

A lot of shows write around the pregnancy. Characters are suddenly called away to go an visit an ailing relative, and they are kept in the storyline through one-sided phone calls to the family.

Some do write the pregnancy in.

Then there was X-Files, where Gillian Anderson's pregnancy was disguised through the wonders of digital enhancement.

jackfaire
02-03-2010, 01:21 PM
I guess mostly I was thinking about shows where like say the title character gets pregnant insists on maternity leave and refuses to film anything during that time.

McDreidel09
02-03-2010, 01:32 PM
It shouldn't matter if you are a fast food worker, office worker,manager,CEO,actress, or (insert job or career here), a woman who is pregnant should have maternity leave. Writers write around that all of the time.

For a cop or detective show, normally, they are undercover for a short amount of time or temporarily are transferred to a different department.

Or what others have said about "leaving to see an ailing relative".

Why should an actress (even though she plays a main character) not have maternity leave?

jackfaire
02-03-2010, 01:40 PM
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Why should an actress (even though she plays a main character) not have maternity leave?

Not saying she shouldn't but I am pointing out situations where you can't write around the person. She refuses to do the show while on maternity leave and the show is I love Lucy without lucy, Mary Tyler Moore without Mary etc. A show where she is the reason for the show she is the lead and if she refuses to film there is no show.

AdminAssistant
02-03-2010, 03:47 PM
In that very specific case, jack, I'm sure there would be negotiations between producers, executives, the actor, and her agent and attorney. It would also depend on the specifics of her contract with the production company. The actor may be legally obligated to film a specific number of episodes, but that would differ by each individual's contract.

Frankly, I don't see why an actor wouldn't film in the early stages of pregnancy, unless it was a show involving a lot of stunt work, in which case the production company wouldn't want the actor to put her or the fetus at risk.

Draggar, one can actively choose to not participate in dangerous activity. However, no matter how careful you are, sometimes pregnancy happens. Or are you suggesting female actors remain celibate?

blas87
02-03-2010, 04:14 PM
I have to laugh at how bad soap operas are about hiding pregancies when they don't write it into the show.....and when a not pregnant star has to play a pregnant woman, she blows up within a month to almost due-size.

I'm not a big Days fan these days anymore, but when the actress who played Nicole was pregnant, they never showed her from below her chest, if they did she was wearing clothes several sizes too big, and she always held her purse or something in front of her.

jackfaire
02-03-2010, 04:57 PM
Star Trek Voyager handled it the worst. Belanna was pregnant they put her in a "lab coat" that was designed much like pregnancy BDUs and no one else in the show in her department was wearing them. It didn't hide the pregnancy it pointed it out.

gremcint
02-04-2010, 04:13 AM
Amanda Tapping is mostly missing from the 1st 5 episodes of season 9 of Stargate because she is pregnant.

Aethian
02-10-2010, 05:24 PM
She refuses to do the show while on maternity leave and the show is I love Lucy without lucy, Mary Tyler Moore without Mary etc. A show where she is the reason for the show she is the lead and if she refuses to film there is no show.

Good thing for Lucy that she practically ran the set anyways. And that her and her lovely hubby got to be pregnant on tv and then got to show little ricky on the tv because she had to be near her first born.

jackfaire
02-10-2010, 05:27 PM
Good thing for Lucy that she practically ran the set anyways. And that her and her lovely hubby got to be pregnant on tv and then got to show little ricky on the tv because she had to be near her first born.

I was referring to a situation where the star themselves refuse to be on tv during the pregnancy and the birth and then maternity thus effectivly keeping the show off the air.

Aethian
02-10-2010, 05:39 PM
I understand that Jack but I was just pointing out how lucky Lucy was in her position.

Fryk
02-12-2010, 07:19 AM
Good thing for Lucy that she practically ran the set anyways. And that her and her lovely hubby got to be pregnant on tv and then got to show little ricky on the tv because she had to be near her first born.

I totally skipped the "to be" part of your sentence and read it as "her and her lovely hubby got pregnant on tv..."

That would have made for a very interesting episide.

jackfaire
02-12-2010, 04:54 PM
I totally skipped the "to be" part of your sentence and read it as "her and her lovely hubby got pregnant on tv..."

That would have made for a very interesting episide.

Tonight on a very special episode I rrrrreeeeeaaaalllllly Love Lucy

bhskittykatt
02-13-2010, 05:44 AM
When Lexa Doig became pregnant during her role in as the ship's avatar and AI in Andromeda, they had to write in another avatar for the ship (played by Brandy Ledford) and write out Doig's since they could only film Doig's upper body (would have been too far a stretch to write in how a spaceship became pregnant...)

Fryk
02-13-2010, 07:15 AM
Hey, spacecraft can have babies! Just ask Moya from FarScape.