PETA goes after the Olsen Twins!

[IDrinkaRum]

http://news.aol.com/entertainment/story/_a/peta-sets-sights-on-trollsen-twins/20071211134109990001

I put this in Things I hate 'cos I hate PETA and this is just ... gah ... infringing on people's right to wear fur!

I really don't like PETA. Maybe a long time ago, when it was first formed, the group was actually good for something. However, with the extreme, ridiculous, condenscending, unlawful (throwing paint on someone's fur coat = assault in my book) things they have done, I say PETA has overstayed its welcome. And to go after 2 girls, whose clothing line for girls is actually pretty decent and something I might actually put my daughter in (the clothes are actually, in my opinion, modest compared to the trash that is being marketed elsewhere). Really, doesn't PETA have some cows/sheep/horses/shelter animals out there to save rather than harrass these poor girls?

[AFPheonix]

Eh. PETA had a good message on its surface, but dig deeper and they're crazy militants who would have us not keep any animals at all. Further, they have a bad habit of killing animals, too.
Even other animal rights activist groups think they're a crock.

[Rapscallion]

Really, doesn't PETA have some cows/sheep/horses/shelter animals out there to save rather than harrass these poor girls?

Well, they do have other things to do, but those type of things don't grab headlines.

Not too sure in what sense you mean "poor". They're hardly destitute. I also rather doubt that they've seen this "trollsen twins" cobblers.

Sure, they're famous, and they have to deal with all the problems that come from that in this day and age, but they also get the benefits from it as well.

As to PETA, I can see that they're trying the old technique of renaming to control. Animal companions - apparently the word 'pet' is demeaning or some bollocks similar to that. A dog or cat doesn't know either way - calling it a pet or an animal companion makes no odds as long as the animal is treated decently. If they can cause everyone to use their word, then people will be ceding some control to them. It's the foot in the door.

They want control of how you think. Sod that.

I don't want to see animal abuse. However, I'm not having that bunch of whackjobs (and if there are any moderate members of PETA around then sodding well speak up, because the loonies are ruining it for everyone else) telling me I can't eat meat, something my species has been doing for years.

Rapscallion

[IDrinkaRum]

Raps, when I said "poor girls", I wasn't referring to their financial status. :D It must be an American colloquilism(sic). What I'm saying is, that at least one of the girls has been suffering from anorexia, they've had some personal problems made public, and now they're being harrassed by idiots who claim they're doing this for the animals? Gah ... I hate PETA.

I'm not even going to go into about what they supposedly did with homeless dogs in like North or South Carolina. Or that they even steal family pets and claim they were abandoned.

If PETA could be outlawed, I'd be the first in line to outlaw them. They really have no life and are jealous of those who do.

[Dreamstalker]

Their blanket condemnation of any pets is crazy. What of the caring cat/dog people who rescue furkids from a worse life? All my family's pets have been shelter kitties or strays that wandered in for food one day and decided they didn't want to leave :) Were they being "abused" just on the basis of being warm and safe with humans instead of getting injured/starving/freezing to death outside? Hell no, each and every one of our kitties was/is treated like one of the family (McGriff is telling me he dares anyone to disagree with that ;) ).

Most domestic pet breeds probably couldn't survive in the wild very long (it's been said that dogs and humans evolved in tandem; humans needed dogs to hunt, and dogs stuck around humans for warmth and shelter).

I might go so far as to call the PETA whackos domestic terrorists of a sort...does the Olsen clothing line use any real fur besides the 'common' stuff?

Yes, I don't particularly like the idea of animals raised for fur, but I don't go around throwing paint on people (IMO that's assault + willful destruction of property) or vandalizing the fur shop down the street.

[blas87]

I don't like the idea of people wearing fur either, but I just bite my lip.

[Greenday]

I don't like the idea of people wearing fur either, but I just bite my lip.

Exactly. It's possible to disagree with what someone does without being a dick about it.

[Dreamstalker]

Meh, they seem to be all about getting any sort of press, as if just because they're in the news will make them Right.

[rahmota]

PETA is a domestic terrorist group. They are a bunch of nutjobs. I have utterly no problem with people wearing fur. I mean maybe Growing up on a farm makes me think differently about this but animals are there for us to use. And if you raise them and take care of them and dont treat them cruelly (and cruelty is not a lot of what PETA says it is) then what happens to them when its time to cull them or use them is not any of their business.

As for the Olsen twins they could use more fur to hide their skinny little butts. They turned out to be another example of how hollywood destroys child star's lives and turns them into media junkies.

[DesignFox]

I don't like PETA, either.

And as long as the animals aren't tortured or harvested illegally, I really don't have issues with fur being used.

Also, I like meat.

I think that what those little morons in training did to the Olsen twins is terrible.

You've got to wonder about PETA when other animal rights groups refuse to associate with them and even go so far as to condemn them.

[Dreamstalker]

Yup. Did they EVER get any good press?!

[protege]

I'm actually a member of PETA. People Eating Tasty Animals, that is :p

But seriously, someone took the wind out of A PETA campaign awhile back. One of those fools went around putting "eating animals" stickers on stop signs all over town. ("Stop eating animals," get it?) Shortly after that started, some smartass got a black permanent marker and wrote "without Ketchup" right below it :D

With that said, I find it interesting that these fools only support giving rights to certain animals. When's the last time you heard of protests for cockroaches?

[Rapscallion]

Interestingly enough, this reminds me of a recent case we had to deal with. There's a company called Ecover over here. It had the coveted Vegan Society sticker on their goods - they're all household cleaning products, but they have a strict no-animal testing policy, ergo the mark.

They landed in some PR hot water recently when it was revealed that they had commissioned some testing, but it turned out to be on water fleas. These are creatures ranging from half a millimetre to two millimetres or so. They are also not covered by European standards for animal testing, therefore they weren't considered for that.

Some people stopped buying their goods over this. Most of us just said "meh" and got on with our lives. The products, by the way, are apparently completely biodegradeable, hence the reason we stock them.

Rapscallion

[AFPheonix]

With that said, I find it interesting that these fools only support giving rights to certain animals. When's the last time you heard of protests for cockroaches?

Pretty much. there's a definite warm-blooded, vertebrate bias as far as a lot of animal rights organizations go.

[DesignFox]

As an example of some of our bias...
"...the only reason we don't eat people is 'cause it tastes lousy"

cookies for the reference. :D

There is a definite prejudice among humans regarding which animals we save, those we eat and those we murder outright. It all depends on their cuteness or usefulness...or downright peskiness (i.e. cockroaches).

A high school teacher once asked our class if bread mold and koala bears both were endangered and we could only save one, which would it be.

Now, I knew what she was getting at, but being a smart-ass said "Koalas, because I am allergic to penicillin and it is hazardous to my health." I received a death-glare. :D

I believe there is also a M*A*S*H episode that makes reference to not eating horses because they are noble animals, but doing pigs a favor by eating them because they are ugly. (Colonel Potter- he is upset at the talk about Korean villagers eating horses because they have no other meat)

We are biased. I would never eat a horse (knowingly) but I love beef, pork, chicken....etc. etc. I don't think I could ever eat an animal that had a name...but...well.... :o

[MystyGlyttyr]

I'll eat just about any animal so long as I don't know it personally. Except for cat. That's not because I like kitties so much, it's because I think they look like they'd taste bad. :D Burnt grasshopper tastes just like burnt popcorn, btw.

[Dreamstalker]

Call me crazy, but I'd actually like to try insect foods like grubs, crickets, ants, etc...I do know of a website which stocks insect candy (chocolate-covered scorpions anyone?), but it's UK-based and what with the exchange rate... :(

[daleduke17]

I have no problem with animals being used, as long as as much of the animal is used as that can possibly be used.

PETA is a bunch of (as previously stated) whackjobs.

[Parrothead]

Am I the only one who has the urge to rent the Oscar Mayer WeinieMobile and host a bar-b-q across the street of PETA's headquarters?

[IDrinkaRum]

Hahahaha! I'd actually help you on that quest! LOL ... Sure I have friends who are vegetarians and vegans and anywhere in between. However, they are not obnoxious about it. They don't care if I eat meat or not.

Ah well, road trip in the WeinerMobile! I love it!

[rahmota]

Am I the only one who has the urge to rent the Oscar Mayer WeinieMobile and host a bar-b-q across the street of PETA's headquarters?

Heck I'm up for a road trip in the weiner mobile anyhow!!!

[DesignFox]

Am I the only one who has the urge to rent the Oscar Mayer WeinieMobile and host a bar-b-q across the street of PETA's headquarters?

I'd join you. That'd be good times. Can I wear my leather jacket? :D

[ArenaBoy]

I am a vegetarian and a animal rights person and I will instantly say that PETA is an embarrassment to me. I love animals and I own a greyhound whom I rescued when he was abandoned at race track. But what PETA is doing is just sending our cause back into the Stone Age.

[Seshat]

I'm in agreement with ArenaBoy. I'm not a vegetarian, but I do think that animals, even those we're going to eat or otherwise use, should be kept humanely.

(Oddly enough, I'm not vegetarian partly for ecological reasons: on this continent, we have limited arable land. Grazing animals is the most ecologically sound way I've been able to find to produce human-edible food on semi-fertile land. You just have to be careful which grasses you use, how much water you use, what you do with the waste, and be careful not to overstock.)

Back to the topic: PETA are not just extremists, they seem to be hypocritical extremists. And that's a double embarassment.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I hate PETA; tho they have some good issues in their group, I refuse to support them or any of their factions cuz they are pretty much terrorists. Like the idiots who released a load of mink from a fur farm in the same county as me; the fact that the mink were attacking children, lambs and birds didn't seem to matter to the idiots who set them free. -.-

Also, the Animal Liberation Front are just as bad; they dug up an old lady's corpse from a graveyard just to make a point. Sickos.

Mink: http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/minks.asp

ALF: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/4762481.stm

[MadMike]

I'd join you. That'd be good times. Can I wear my leather jacket? :D

Interestingly enough, have you ever noticed they don't go after people wearing leather? I guess they figured it was a lot safer to throw paint at young girls and old ladies in fur coats than at bikers in leather. :D

[DesignFox]

Interestingly enough, have you ever noticed they don't go after people wearing leather? I guess they figured it was a lot safer to throw paint at young girls and old ladies in fur coats than at bikers in leather. :D

My jacket happens to be of the biker variety. It's from my heavy metal, all black, t-shirt and baggy pants with spiked collar/wrist band wearing days... I bet they wouldn't have thrown paint on me... :D

I still listen to the metal, but I'm getting into "responsible" ages...no more spiked collars for me. Damn adulthood. *chuckle*