"You're pathetic, you live with your parents!"

[Rageaholic]

This is a rant mostly directed at some hypocritical relatives of mine, but it could also apply to an attitude I see online, even on here and CS at times. In fact, it was a thread on CS that really brought home this rant of mine.

I'm 22 years old, I've never worked in a job (looking though), I still live with my well off family, they pay for my expenses, including my college education, and I don't have to pay rent to live in my parents house. Oh and speaking of college, I'm not a full time student. In other words, I'm taking it easy, I'm not stressing myself out, I'm going at my own pace, and I don't get flak from my parents over it. In fact, I rarely fight with my parents and get along perfectly fine with them. They are not going to kick me out because they feel I should be on my own and I feel perfectly secure with them.

Look, I get it, not everyone has easy going parents nor are they on good terms. Some parents are more strict than others, some people come from less well off backrounds, and I'm sure that a good percentage of people have bigger problems to deal with than me. There are probably a lot of things I have that others don't that I take for granted. It honestly pains me to see others being stressed out over strict parents or what not. It also impresses me to see how they come through, so this isn't me trying to play the "I'm better" card.

My problem is this attitude that I shouldn't complain about anything because I live with my parents. Or even worse, being down right insulted because of it. I got this from relatives who would talk about how when they were growing up they would have been out of the house by 18, or how they would have had to work to get money, and how they would have never gotten away with saying that in front of their parents! With some relatives, I'm afraid to even ask my parents for anything for fear that they will make some smart ass comment. Even though my parents don't mind being there for me, they too are getting crapped on for being "too easy" on me.

As a result, *I* feel like crap like maybe I've had it too easy or am asking my parents for too much, or that I should have it harder. You know what? Fuck that shit. I'm not going to feel bad for having some things (okay maybe a lot) handed to me, nor am I going to feel like the spoiled kid who doesn't know how good he has it. I offer to help around the house, I don't ask my parents for anything unreasonable, I don't throw fits when they don't give me what I want. I am very grateful for having parents who I know will be there for me. And damn it, I'm going to stay grateful for it, not live in shame, feeling like an EW who "never has to work for anything". Bull shit. I'm not without my struggles and even if I wasn't it's nobody's goddamn business but my parents and I!

[Sableonblonde]

I lived at home until I was 26. I paid like $100 a month in rent, and that pretty much got cancelled out by the fact that my mom bought all of the groceries. She also did my laundry. In my case, my mom was pretty co-dependent and didn't want to lose her children or have them go anywhere...she is depressive and doesn't have ANY friends, and so didn't want to be alone.

Admittedly, I turned out to be a pretty spoiled, bratty adult. I couldn't hang on to a job for longer than four or five months, I had this entitlement attitude, I was lazy. At 27, I'm still in the process of sloooowly becoming an adult LoL On the one hand I think that if you have parents who want to take care of you, then hey, take advantage of your luck! But on the other hand, just make sure that it's not making you soft or impeding the process of growing up:)

[Fashion Lad!]

I moved back home after getting into a huge fight with one of my roomies. I needed to be out of that house ASAP. My parents let me move back in. I pay $150 for rent. I help out around the house. Take care of all the animals. Work full-time, go to school full-time. I get awesome grades (Dean's list every quarter). I'm getting ready to graduate this June.

I think in a long run, your parents are doing you more harm than good. Life doesn't go at your pace... I learned that a long time ago.

But, I'm glad you have a good arrangement with your parents and you're all happy. I just hope life doesn't kick you in the face when you get into it.

[DrFaroohk]

My best friend is like that now, although he's 29. Still, he's just gotten his masters in something or other and is looking for work. He doesn't spend alllllll day at it, and he takes it easy too, plays wow most of the time. Some people give him shit for it, and even people who have no business judging him at all. It's not like the money spent on him was going to be theirs if he had a tough life.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I lived with my parents til my mid twenties. I couldn't find a flat cuz I didn't want a flatshare, I wanted to live by myself and it took me ages to find one. I paid rent, did all my washing and some of the cooking, plus I pitched in on housework. I was hardly being kept and waited on hand and foot.

[Boozy]

There's nothing wrong with living with your parents. Nothing wrong with living there rent-free either, as long as your folks can afford it and don't mind.

But it's important to stay busy and focussed. I strongly believe that everyone should do something full-time, or have several part-time pursuits.

You shouldn't feel badly about it, because there's no point. Feeling bad doesn't make anyone else's situation better. But if your schooling takes only part-time hours and you're doing nothing else, you should probably be pushing yourself a bit more. You're only 22 years-old! "Taking it easy" is for retirement.

If you can't handle more classes, and can't get a job you like, do some volunteer work. It looks great on a resume, and at your age, you need to be concerned about building some sort of solid work history.

[Cat]

I lived at home til 27......not enough $$$ to get my own apartment and noone to be roomies with.

Hell, technically my parents own my condo, and I pay 'em rent. I do feel like a failure at life for that, but I'm hopefully will change that within a year.

[Amanita]

I live at home too, and yes, I feel like a failure for it. I work full time, but can't afford my own place. Nobody to be roomies with, and to be honest given the bad experience I had with roommates in Toronto, I am not sure I want to risk that again. I help out, cook a lot of my own food, and do my own laundry. I'm not the sort of layabout mooch they always show on Dr. Phil.

[Rageaholic]

I think in a long run, your parents are doing you more harm than good. Life doesn't go at your pace... I learned that a long time ago.

I mean no disrespect, but I hate that arguement. There are some things we can't control, but the things we can control, we should control to our liking. My parents don't want me to stress myself out since I am prone to do that. For now, I am growing up at my own pace. Yes, I'm a lot slower than other people, but it's not like I'm going to be living with my parents forever.

My best friend is like that now, although he's 29. Still, he's just gotten his masters in something or other and is looking for work. He doesn't spend alllllll day at it, and he takes it easy too, plays wow most of the time. Some people give him shit for it, and even people who have no business judging him at all. It's not like the money spent on him was going to be theirs if he had a tough life.

Ditto, we agree again. I think those people who give him shit are either jealous or need someone to compare themselves to. I guess we all do it at some time, but most know when to keep their mouth shut about it.

There's nothing wrong with living with your parents. Nothing wrong with living there rent-free either, as long as your folks can afford it and don't mind.

But it's important to stay busy and focussed. I strongly believe that everyone should do something full-time, or have several part-time pursuits.

You shouldn't feel badly about it, because there's no point. Feeling bad doesn't make anyone else's situation better. But if your schooling takes only part-time hours and you're doing nothing else, you should probably be pushing yourself a bit more. You're only 22 years-old! "Taking it easy" is for retirement.

If you can't handle more classes, and can't get a job you like, do some volunteer work. It looks great on a resume, and at your age, you need to be concerned about building some sort of solid work history.

You're right, feeling bad is just unnecessary grief that doesn't get me anywhere. Like I said, to hell with those people who want to insult me over it.

However, I don't think taking it easy is just for retirement. While I would like to get a job, do more things, and have experience, I don't want to be one of those things where I am overwhelmed with life. I see this happen so much on the CS forum, where someone's life would become so stressed filled because of their job.

I just don't like the idea that people can't take it easy until they retire. It's one of those things that's hard to explain without using extreme examples.

[the_std]

But why not use the time that you have now, while you're young and don't have to worry about grinding at a job you might not like just to pay bills/support your family/whatever, to get ahead, get some experience that could help you avoid the tedium of a hated job later on? Volunteer work, like Boozy said, is fantastic for this. It can help you make great connections, give you some fantastic experience to put on your resume, and can even be a lot of fun if you volunteer doing something you enjoy.

Case in point - I am 21, and went to school for fine art. While going to school, I volunteered with the university's general interest fine arts program, which didn't give credits or anything like that, but was more meant for hobbyists. I loved doing it, because I got to work with the art I loved and the people I volunteered with were always amazingly grateful for my help. After a few years of volunteering, one of the instructors of the program approached me to teach some classes! So instead, I got to do what I loved, but this time I was getting paid over $30 an hour to do it. I was an instructor in a university program by the time I was 20.

There's a difference between not stressing yourself out and taking the lazy way out just cause you can.

[Rageaholic]

STD: Don't get me wrong, I AM looking for a job and even volunteer work if I can't get a job (I've volunteered in the past). I just don't want to feel like I have to keep up with everyone else. That would just stress me out.

I hope I didn't give the impression that I'm not even trying to do anything because I am. It's just that I'm trying to take a laid back approach to it as to not stress me out.

[linguist]

However, I don't think taking it easy is just for retirement. While I would like to get a job, do more things, and have experience, I don't want to be one of those things where I am overwhelmed with life. I see this happen so much on the CS forum, where someone's life would become so stressed filled because of their job.



that sounds great in theory, but the reality is that almost everyone feels that way at one point or another, and if you think waiting means it'll never happen to you, you're wrong.

also, i'll jump on the "volunteer work" bandwagon, if not an actual paying job, because the longer you go before getting a job of some sort, the harder it's going to be for you. even if you wait until you have a degree, you'll be competing with people with the same degree who have years of actual work experience behind them.

[Fashion Lad!]

I mean no disrespect, but I hate that arguement. There are some things we can't control, but the things we can control, we should control to our liking. My parents don't want me to stress myself out since I am prone to do that. For now, I am growing up at my own pace. Yes, I'm a lot slower than other people, but it's not like I'm going to be living with my parents forever.


Part of dealing with stress is having it and learning. You can't avoid stress. And not all stress is bad. Case-in-point. I had an extremely tough CISCO Test. I worked myself near to death studying for it. Working full-time. Plus, I have two other classes that I needed to study for. I worked myself up, got a 91%. I was the one that brought the class average up to 67%. (My instructor told me in an email) Take me out of the picture, the class average was a 58%. This is a level 300 class. It's a hard class. If I didn't stress myself out over it, while I probably would have still passed, I wouldn't have done as well.

I used to compete in karate tournaments, stress is what got me the first place trophy. It's what had me ranked #2 in the entire mid-west in sparring for 3 years straight as a 1st degree blackbelt.

I understand wanting to take things easy, I really do. I understand that it's great when you don't have to worry about anything, really. I did that in high-school.

My parents don't want me stressing myself out. That's why they're letting me stay at home until I graduate. They don't want me living with new people, whom I may or may not get along with, while working full-time and going to school full-time.

[Boozy]

Part of dealing with stress is having it and learning.

Quoted for truth!

The more you do something, the better you get at it. Handling stress is no different. And it is probably the single most important thing people should practice doing while young. Stress is unavoidable; it will eventually happen, and you don't want to crumble under the pressure when it does.

[Lace Neil Singer]

also, i'll jump on the "volunteer work" bandwagon, if not an actual paying job, because the longer you go before getting a job of some sort, the harder it's going to be for you. even if you wait until you have a degree, you'll be competing with people with the same degree who have years of actual work experience behind them.

After I left college, I couldn't get a job. Eventually, to get myself out of the house and away from the temptation of watching nonstop cartoons, I got a job in a charity shop. Ironically, having the exporience of working did in fact net me a job.

[MaggieTheCat]

I'll also just throw in that if you can get a part-time paying job, and your parents don't expect much or anything from you as far as rent/helping with groceries/etc go, start saving up! I did that when I was 21 or 22. I was going to school full-time, and living at home, so I got a part-time job. Eventually turned into a full-time job. Even after going full-time, I was still living at home for a while and had very few expenses. I managed to save up several thousands of dollars over the course of about 2 years and I STILL have some of that savings left now, when I'm almost 26. It's great for stuff like taking our cat to the vet at 9pm when he swallows part of a plastic bag and we need $300 to pay for an emergency vet bill. :rolleyes:

[protege]

I lived with my parents until I was 30. But, it's not like I wasn't doing anything--I did pay rent, and had a full-time job. Living there, I was able to save up some cash, pay off the car, pay off the school loans, do some traveling, etc. But, by 30, I'd had enough. I got tired of the constant arguing and the general stupidity in that place. By then, I'd saved up enough...that I put 30% down towards a house down the street :)

[elsporko]

STD: Don't get me wrong, I AM looking for a job and even volunteer work if I can't get a job (I've volunteered in the past). I just don't want to feel like I have to keep up with everyone else. That would just stress me out.

I hope I didn't give the impression that I'm not even trying to do anything because I am. It's just that I'm trying to take a laid back approach to it as to not stress me out.

You probably can't get a job because you are 22 and have never had a job before.


I lived at home part time during college. I went to school in another city but lived at home expense free during the summer so I could earn enough money working so I didn't have to work while at school. The worst two months of my life were after my seasonal gig ended but before I could get a full time job. I felt like a complete sponge sitting at home all day. I did alot of job searching but I still felt bad for not being able to contribute t society.

How long is it going to take you to finish school on your part time schedule? Do you want to be that guy who graduates from college at 28, has never had a job or real life experience, and can't get a job because he is 28, never had a job, and never had a real life experience? As fun as it might be only have a couple classes to go to each week and be able to spend the rest of the time playing video games or watching porn you eventually have to realize that you are an adult and there is more to life then that.

[telecom_goddess]

Coming from the other end of this scenario....I have a daughter who's 20 and still living at home, has never had a real job, and isn't going to school. I'm sick of it. I'm afraid she's just going to waste her life away. She has zero ambition. But I have finally put my foot down and said she has to find a job..and that means looking every single day, not just when you feel like it. At this point in time it looks like she has a job at Dairy Queen. Sucky yes but it's income and I need the help paying the household bills and rent...

Oh and while she does do her own laundry she basically does almost nothing else around the house unless I specifically ask her to...and then it's little things like emptying the dishwasher. I still do the majority of the cleaning. :mad:

[the_std]

I just wanted to say here that we're not trying to put you down or say we think any less of you for the choice you're making, we're just trying to show you how much you could help yourself by choosing a different course of action.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Oh and while she does do her own laundry she basically does almost nothing else around the house unless I specifically ask her to...and then it's little things like emptying the dishwasher. I still do the majority of the cleaning. :mad:

You're much more lenient than my mother; I never would even have dreamed of refusing to do housework while I lived at home. XD

Then again, when I did move out, my mother predicted that my flat would be devastation. XD It seems I'm tidier in my own space.

[McDreidel09]

I'm going to say that I'm not trying to put you down. That is not my intention.

Life is stress,kid. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking it's not. Even the millionaires and billionaires have stress because they are running their business, though they have better access to vacations than your average bear. I'm sorry, but your parents are not doing you any favors by just letting you relax and not get a job.

As for the attitude you see, it's coming from the people who HAD to learn to be independent. We were brought up to care for ourselves, to work, and how to survive in the real world. It's the only way we know.

Personally, I wouldn't look down upon someone who lives with their parents. I don't know their situation. For all I know, it could be that the parents are having a hard time and need help. However, I don't think that someone is mature when they say "I just don't want to stress myself out", especially when they are older than myself. This is coming from the girl, who worked in high school, did homework, came home to help take care of a house and a younger sister while my mom worked to support us, ran two academic clubs, and did some sports, participated in class functions, and still managed to graduate with honors and raise a sister who is a great student and very mature for an almost 15 year old. Stress has been my companion for years.

[protege]

You're much more lenient than my mother; I never would even have dreamed of refusing to do housework while I lived at home. XD

But then there are mothers like mine. My 27 and 30-year-old brothers still live at home...and don't do shit. My mom bitches about how "nobody will help her," yet won't make them do anything. Those two losers live there, pay minimal rent...do nothing to help out...and then turn around and whine about how they hate living there :confused: Seriously, if living with them is "so bad," get a fucking job and move out!

[Rageaholic]

*sigh*

I should have known people would misinterprate what my rant was about. Okay, I'm taking college courses part time, but that's not going to last forever. It's TEMPORARY. For one, my CC will only transfer so many credits and I've reached my limit. Second, I can look for a job and have more availability if I get hired. And yes, mcdreidel, I won't get stressed out. I accept that stress is part of life and don't expect to be stress free, but I can only handle so much.

Look, I admit, life for me is pretty damn boring at times and I feel as if I should be doing more. You guys are preaching to the choir here. I would love to be able to get a job and have stories to tell. I would love to be more independant. That is my goal in life and I am working at it. But I'll be damned before I start comparing myself to others because I don't want to start stressing myself out to the point where I start hating life. Regardless of what "life" has in store for me, I can only do things at my own pace. As of now, I'm lagging behind, but that doesn't mean I'll be this way forever. Call me "selfish" or "immature" but my number one goal is to be happy, not give myself unnecessary stress.

And since you like to be so blunt elsporko, I'll be blunt back. You are exactly the type of people I was venting about in my OP. "ooh no one's going to hire me because I'm 22 and never had a job!". Or is it because I just play video games and look at porn all day? Dude, that's a bull shit stereotype and you know it. There is no rush to graduate college, especially the way the job market is. There's also no rush to get a job either. Yeah, I'm 22 and haven't had a job yet. All I can do is keeping looking (or do volunteer) and not get stressed out if I don't find one.

For those who were kind and offered advice, thank you. I'm not angry with you, I just wanted to vent about a few posts that did piss me off.

[Boozy]

Call me "selfish" or "immature" but my number one goal is to be happy, not give myself unnecessary stress.

Actually, I think that's quite sensible.

For example, I don't think you should get a job just for the sake of getting a job. Many jobs suck, and the only people who take them are those who don't have a choice. If you do have freedom of choice, you should exercise it. Find something that makes you happy, or gives you the experience you'll require to do something later on that will make you happy.

I guess what I'm saying is that you should pursue "good" stress. There's no harm in avoiding the bad.

[Rageaholic]

Actually, I think that's quite sensible.

For example, I don't think you should get a job just for the sake of getting a job. Many jobs suck, and the only people who take them are those who don't have a choice. If you do have freedom of choice, you should exercise it. Find something that makes you happy, or gives you the experience you'll require to do something later on that will make you happy.

I guess what I'm saying is that you should pursue "good" stress. There's no harm in avoiding the bad.

That's what I'm saying. Misery should not be a contest. I don't want to feel like I have to do something just to prove I can handle it. Just because other people aren't as fortunate to have freedom of choice doesn't mean I should feel bad about having that freedom. Being fortunate is a gift, not a curse.

Thanks for understanding. :)

[McDreidel09]

I admit, I may have been rude to you in my previous post. I didn't mean to sound like it. Just the way you worded your posts made it seem that you didn't want a job because it's too stressful. My apologies.

[elsporko]

And since you like to be so blunt elsporko, I'll be blunt back. You are exactly the type of people I was venting about in my OP. "ooh no one's going to hire me because I'm 22 and never had a job!". Or is it because I just play video games and look at porn all day? Dude, that's a bull shit stereotype and you know it. There is no rush to graduate college, especially the way the job market is. There's also no rush to get a job either. Yeah, I'm 22 and haven't had a job yet. All I can do is keeping looking (or do volunteer) and not get stressed out if I don't find one

Make sure to tell your boss about how stereotypes aren't true when he hires a 20 year old with four years of work experience over you.

[guywithashovel]

*sigh*
And since you like to be so blunt elsporko, I'll be blunt back. You are exactly the type of people I was venting about in my OP. "ooh no one's going to hire me because I'm 22 and never had a job!". Or is it because I just play video games and look at porn all day? Dude, that's a bull shit stereotype and you know it. There is no rush to graduate college, especially the way the job market is. There's also no rush to get a job either. Yeah, I'm 22 and haven't had a job yet. All I can do is keeping looking (or do volunteer) and not get stressed out if I don't find one.


I just finished grad school in August of 2008. Now, I'm sure everyone who hasn't been living under a rock knows that was a terrible time to be graduating from school. That was at the cusp of the huge financial tsunami that came crashing down on our economy. At the time, I was doing an internship, but that internship only lasted until January of 2009. After that, I was unemployed and looking for work, along with a pool of millions of other unemployed workers that kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Long story short, I was able to start doing freelance work in September of 2009, and in December of 2009, I landed the job I have now. During the time when I was unemployed, I often felt pretty bad about myself. I tried to make the most of it, and I like to think I did. I passed the time doing some volunteer work, and I helped out with my family. Point is, I know what it's like to be unemployed/underemployed and feel like people are judging you for it.

However, elsporko did raise a good point, even though his bluntness seems to have struck a nerve with you. The fact that you're 22 and never had a job might be hindering you in your job search, especially considering the fact that employers have a pretty sizable pool of applicants to choose from. My uncle has conducted quite a few job interviews for his company, and he told me that time in between jobs is often taken into consideration when hiring new people. It usually isn't a deal breaker, but it is given attention. It's important to be able to explain gaps in your employment, or in your case, why you have never been employed.

[Rageaholic]

Mcdriedel, I accept your apologies. It's easy to misinterprate things online.

[protege]

It's important to be able to explain gaps in your employment, or in your case, why you have never been employed.

I second that. My company does look at gaps in employment history. A few months is no big deal. Simply put, "shit happens." But a couple of years? Seeing that, makes people wonder "was this person in jail?" and usually makes us *not* want to hire someone. I mean really, what the hell were they doing all that time? Rather than contemplate possible reasons, those resumes get dumped into the bottom of the call-back pile.

[telecom_goddess]

I second that. My company does look at gaps in employment history. A few months is no big deal. Simply put, "shit happens." But a couple of years? Seeing that, makes people wonder "was this person in jail?" and usually makes us *not* want to hire someone. I mean really, what the hell were they doing all that time? Rather than contemplate possible reasons, those resumes get dumped into the bottom of the call-back pile.

Well I have a really good employment history, but there have been gaps of a couple of years where I stayed home while my boyfriend supported us. Those were the days :). Just cause there is a gap doesn't mean someone was in jail!

[jackfaire]

I mean really, what the hell were they doing all that time? Rather than contemplate possible reasons, those resumes get dumped into the bottom of the call-back pile.

Recovering from the nervous mental breakdown brought on by my divorce and my dad dying.

[protege]

Just cause there is a gap doesn't mean someone was in jail!

I know it doesn't, that was just an example. But, it does throw up a red flag where I work.

[guywithashovel]

Gaps in employment won't ruin your chances of getting a job. I didn't mean to imply that. However, you do need to be able to explain them well in interviews.

For example, when I interviewed for my current job, I had been unemployed for almost nine months. My aforementioned uncle helped me explain that in a manner that sounded very reasonable and professional. He told me to emphasize the volunteer work I had been doing during my unemployment and to point out that I had been helping my grandmother who'd had some health issues over the year. Granted, that last part was a bit of a stretch. My grandmother HAS had some health issues, and I have been helping her out, but she hasn't been in a position where she needed someone around to help her. Still, it was a good thing to say in the interview.

Rageaholic should probably emphasize that she has been busy going to school while not working. The part about it being part-time school should probably be left out (remember, employers usually won't find out things like that unless you tell them . . . it's okay to let on like you've been going full time). Also, she/he (not sure if OP is male or female, sorry), could also talk about helping out parents or a relative for health reasons or whatever reasons, even if it isn't the whole truth or is an exaggeration of the truth.

[Rageaholic]

Gaps in employment won't ruin your chances of getting a job. I didn't mean to imply that. However, you do need to be able to explain them well in interviews.

For example, when I interviewed for my current job, I had been unemployed for almost nine months. My aforementioned uncle helped me explain that in a manner that sounded very reasonable and professional. He told me to emphasize the volunteer work I had been doing during my unemployment and to point out that I had been helping my grandmother who'd had some health issues over the year. Granted, that last part was a bit of a stretch. My grandmother HAS had some health issues, and I have been helping her out, but she hasn't been in a position where she needed someone around to help her. Still, it was a good thing to say in the interview.

Rageaholic should probably emphasize that she has been busy going to school while not working. The part about it being part-time school should probably be left out (remember, employers usually won't find out things like that unless you tell them . . . it's okay to let on like you've been going full time). Also, she/he (not sure if OP is male or female, sorry), could also talk about helping out parents or a relative for health reasons or whatever reasons, even if it isn't the whole truth or is an exaggeration of the truth.

I'm a guy lol. :o

Thanks for the tips though. Since I am starting to look for work again, this will definately be helpful on the applications. I usually hate lying, but I can BS if I have to, just as long as I don't get caught off guard by trick questions.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

I'm a guy lol. :o

Thanks for the tips though. Since I am starting to look for work again, this will definately be helpful on the applications. I usually hate lying, but I can BS if I have to, just as long as I don't get caught off guard by trick questions.

How much dirt can you remove from a 9X10X5 hole? If a plane crashes on the border between Virginia and West Virginia, where do you bury the survivors? Name the cooles Jonas Brother? :D

IMO stretching and partial omission of exhausting detail is all good and well, but if asked a direct question, lying isn't advisable...

[Gravekeeper]

Eeeh, I'm a bit torn on this one. I have no wish to come across as putting you down. But I personally could not contemplate living the life you do. I was working since I was 12 and out of the house by 18. Not because my parents threw me out but because it was time to move on and grow up.

Part of growing up and living an adult life is learning to deal with said life. Simple as that. I learned more about life, being an adult and myself in the first couple years I lived alone and supported myself then I ever had before or since. To me that knowledge and experience is vital for a person, frankly.

Children just aren't meant to live with their parents after a certain point, I don't think its healthy for either party to be honest.

I don't wish to put you down in any way, but I honestly believe you're doing yourself a disservice. Even having your own place that your parents paid the rent on would be preferable. At least you would be on your own and responsible for maintaining the basics of your own adult life and home. You need that space, in more ways then one, to truly grow up.

[Rageaholic]

Gravekeeper: All I gotta say is different strokes for different folks man.

[AdminAssistant]

Children just aren't meant to live with their parents after a certain point, I don't think its healthy for either party to be honest.

I concur. When I went to college, I may have moved in with my sister (at first)...but at least I moved out. When she got married I went over to the dorms. Sure it sucked at times, but I can't imagine going through college living under my parents' roof. How are you supposed to stay out at parties too late, drink a little too much, have sex, stay up 'til 3 am gossiping with your roomie at your parents' house? College isn't just about the classes (although the classes are important, of course. :p)

[guywithashovel]

I concur. When I went to college, I may have moved in with my sister (at first)...but at least I moved out. When she got married I went over to the dorms. Sure it sucked at times, but I can't imagine going through college living under my parents' roof. How are you supposed to stay out at parties too late, drink a little too much, have sex, stay up 'til 3 am gossiping with your roomie at your parents' house? College isn't just about the classes (although the classes are important, of course. :p)

I lived at home while I went to college, and looking back, I think I would have enjoyed myself a lot more had I moved out and gone away to college. There were times during my college years when my parents almost drove me completely nuts. To be fair, though, it usually wasn't too bad when my dad was still working and was usually gone in the evenings. Once he retired, though, it got pretty unbearable, since he's a pretty big control freak (hate to say that, but it's true). Fortunately, I soon went to grad school and moved out.

[McDreidel09]

How are you supposed to stay out at parties too late, drink a little too much, have sex, stay up 'til 3 am gossiping with your roomie at your parents' house? College isn't just about the classes (although the classes are important, of course. :p)

How did you know my New Year's Resolution? :D

I mean...*ahem* I am too young for booze. Underage drinking is bad m'kay? *shifty eyes*

[Vagabond]

*blink blink*
You're in college and underage?
I thought there was that universal rule about college and alcohol? Hell, my roomie actually bought mine when I was in college.
Actually, the university had a bar that was owned and operated by students, and they only cared that you attempted to fake an ID.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

*blink blink*
You're in college and underage?
I thought there was that universal rule about college and alcohol? Hell, my roomie actually bought mine when I was in college.
Actually, the university had a bar that was owned and operated by students, and they only cared that you attempted to fake an ID.

I finished highschool two weeks after my 18th birthday, and enrolled in a walking-distance community college with haste, so yeah, about the time I end my 3rd year of higher education (assuming I don't snap and throttle a beatnick to death) I'll be able to drink. And to be honest, I wouldn't want most of these people to be drunk around me anyways...

[Vagabond]

You don't have to be drunk around them.
My roomie and I holed up in our room and drank there most of the time. Alot of my 2nd year of college was spent drinking and watching Final Fantasy ummmm (insert roman numerals here) the one with Sephiroth.
Very bizarre year that one was... but that's another story.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

You don't have to be drunk around them.
My roomie and I holed up in our room and drank there most of the time. Alot of my 2nd year of college was spent drinking and watching Final Fantasy ummmm (insert roman numerals here) the one with Sephiroth.
Very bizarre year that one was... but that's another story.

That would be 7 (VII), the first in 3D and the best one narrative wise I've ever played. However, I would rate playing any of the FF series as roughly as bizzare as interacting with random strangers online in an FPS and/or this site :D

I hear tha my brother's experience was largely similar to yours as well, when he isn't commenting about how weird it is to live in a 24/7 Budweiser commercial...

[Vagabond]

I can't say I saw Clydesdales or swimsuit models in swimsuits in College. Although I did stumble across the Peace Bridge from Canada drunk back to my dorms. I do not recommend this though.
FF VII was slightly bizarre, great story. Actually, all the FF's are slightly bizarre, even my fave, FF Tactics.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

I can't say I saw Clydesdales or swimsuit models in swimsuits in College. Although I did stumble across the Peace Bridge from Canada drunk back to my dorms. I do not recommend this though.
FF VII was slightly bizarre, great story. Actually, all the FF's are slightly bizarre, even my fave, FF Tactics.

OMG O.o tactics was the best. Half of my reasoning for using a PSP is because they released Tactics for it. Granted, a lot of the wording has changed, they talk all medievel-ish but the story is still great. That and the ability to have your own Dark Knights :D

A lot of people give me guff over walking to college, as if crossing the road twicei s some sort of extreme sport. Then again, they give me guff over wearing sneakers with velcro instead of laces, so, I guess people will bitch about anything...

[Vagabond]

Have you seen 'Long Kiss Goodnight' with Samuel Jackson and Geena Davis?
The Bridge they blow up in that Movie is the 'Peace Bridge', crossing it drunk (Cuz you just came from Canada, Hard Rock Cafe and several other bars in the area), in January, with the requisite snow and ice, could be considered an extreme sport. But I was with friends... who were also plastered, so it was okay. Maybe.
People will bitch. Hey, look up there, we're in the "Things I Hate" forum... LOL, is that not bitching? :D

[Rageaholic]

Have you seen 'Long Kiss Goodnight' with Samuel Jackson and Geena Davis?


Off topic: but that's one of my favorite action movies of all time, especially the finale.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

Have you seen 'Long Kiss Goodnight' with Samuel Jackson and Geena Davis?
The Bridge they blow up in that Movie is the 'Peace Bridge', crossing it drunk (Cuz you just came from Canada, Hard Rock Cafe and several other bars in the area), in January, with the requisite snow and ice, could be considered an extreme sport. But I was with friends... who were also plastered, so it was okay. Maybe.
People will bitch. Hey, look up there, we're in the "Things I Hate" forum... LOL, is that not bitching? :D

It's difficult to argue with your reasoning...

Though drunk friends are universally 'useful' for explaining to the cops what happened after the bleeding stops :D

[McDreidel09]

*blink blink*
You're in college and underage?
I thought there was that universal rule about college and alcohol? Hell, my roomie actually bought mine when I was in college.
Actually, the university had a bar that was owned and operated by students, and they only cared that you attempted to fake an ID.

I'm under the drinking age. I am legal for just about everything else.