The Charlie Sheen Crazy Train [Archive]

AdminAssistant

02-17-2011, 05:15 AM

I really feel for all the people who work for the show - the grips, cameramen, costumers, craft services, etc....all people who aren't working right now, who aren't getting paid, and who don't make millions per episode. All because sobriety "bores" him, and oh, btw, crack is fine if you can manage it socially. What a fuckhead.

My suggestion to CBS? Fire him, kill off his character, and hire Emilio to step in to finish out the season. He may not have had Charlie's success, but he's not *insane.* (Besides, Bobby was a darn good movie.)

protege

02-17-2011, 01:55 PM

I just have to ask... "How is this asshole not dead yet?"

Rapscallion

02-17-2011, 04:00 PM

Animatronics.

Rapscallion

telecom_goddess

02-17-2011, 04:33 PM

I think he's taking his character too seriously and trying to have life imitate art too much :D

Really I think he's an immature jerk BUT he's good on the show, again he's basically playing himself...and I do like the show a lot. I think he should pay the crew the money they would lose otherwise.

blas87

02-17-2011, 05:17 PM

I can't stand the buttnugget, but sometimes when I have to get up early for work, it's on while I'm in the shower, and yeah, that show is absolutely hilarious and he does truly add the most character to the show.

But Admin has a great point, his irresponsibility and addiction and lack of desire to get (or keep receiving) help is screwing over a lot of people.

Go figure, an actor for an amazing show gets cancer, they wait it out for a bit, but ultimately decide to replace him.........an actor has a drug/alcohol addiction and is basically refusing to change for the better, the whole crew waits endlessly for him to come back.

AdminAssistant

02-17-2011, 06:43 PM

Go figure, an actor for an amazing show gets cancer, they wait it out for a bit, but ultimately decide to replace him

Who was this?

Plaidman

02-17-2011, 11:00 PM

Who was this?

Andy Whitfield from Spartacus, who's character was dun dun dun, Spartacus the main fucking character.

He got replaced cause he got cancer and fuck the waiting on that after all.

Andara Bledin

02-18-2011, 12:00 AM

Actually, by all accounts, it's the star that bowed out in the case of Spartacus.

Article at Starz (http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/spartacus-star-andy-whitfield-wont-return-for-season-2-future-of-starzs-series-is-in-limbo/)

"It's with a deep sense of disappointment that I must step aside from such an exceptional project as Spartacus and all the wonderful people involved. It seems that it is time for myself and my family to embark on another extraordinary journey. Thank you sincerely for the support so far," said Whitfield.

^-.-^

blas87

02-18-2011, 03:21 AM

Starz had decided to take the plot backwards and make a mini-series prequel while they waited on him, but his cancer returned right after he initially got better.

You think Charlie is willing going to go? Nope. We'll be waiting on him forever.

kibbles

02-19-2011, 08:23 PM

I genuinely like him as an actor and a person, and I do hope that he gets help for himself..even if it means him being replaced on the show.

Peppergirl

02-20-2011, 10:20 AM

I find his behavior reprehensible and appalling, both personally AND professionally.

He should be ashamed.

blas87

02-20-2011, 10:24 AM

Exactly, Pepper. Except that ever since he was given that endearing nickname and everything he's done is ultimately shrugged off as "Charlie Sheen being Charlie Sheen", it's not a big deal.

Peppergirl

02-20-2011, 10:51 AM

Exactly, Pepper. Except that ever since he was given that endearing nickname and everything he's done is ultimately shrugged off as "Charlie Sheen being Charlie Sheen", it's not a big deal.

I hate this sort of attitude.

I have a co-worker that gets away with murder. When it's pointed out, management says 'Well, thats just Mary being Mary!'.

Where does it end? I guess if Mary wanted to get a gun and brandish it around the office, it'd be okay because she's just 'being Mary'.

Back to Charlie. I wonder what his family thinks?

blas87

02-20-2011, 11:27 AM

I'm not sure about his immediate family, but I wonder what Denise Richards has to tell his daughters. I hope he doesn't get to see them again until he cleans his act up for good.

Oh who are we kidding, he'll never change.

AdminAssistant

02-20-2011, 03:29 PM

I know that his father has been desperately trying to get him into rehab for *years*.

HYHYBT

02-21-2011, 01:34 AM

This is stupid, but every time I see this thread, I think of Animaniacs.

Charlie Sheen, Ben Vereen, shrink to the size of a lima bean

Plaidman

02-21-2011, 01:48 AM

I think people think of it as Charlie being Charlie because, well, he's been like that since he was a baby. I read a bio on him once, and he was one fucked up kid. He drank his way through what little schooling he did, and same drugged his way through his career.

They always say ya never forget your first time. Charlie's first time was with a hooker he paid for when he was like, 15 or 16. And as he claims, there's no emontional connection or flirting or mind games with call girls. He pays them for sex and that's all.

Giggle Goose

02-21-2011, 12:50 PM

I mostly agree with everyone else about what a fuckhead he is. I would like to say, though...why the HELL is this shit getting talked about on NPR??? That's what I listen to to get educated on the issues, not to hear about frickin' Charlie Sheen! And I know they have entertainment shows (or something close to it), but he was on the actual morning news one time. The guy's just a waste of space.

blas87

02-21-2011, 01:00 PM

telecom_goddess

02-21-2011, 03:38 PM

E! Online had a story about Charlie Sheen giving advice for Lindsay Lohan.

Are you effing serious? You have no right to talk about stuff like that. You're a grown man and still can't control your addictions and impulses!

Ok wait a minute now........:eek:REALLY?:eek:

That's awesome. The blind leading the blind...or stupid leading the stupid....

LexiaFira

02-21-2011, 10:22 PM

this is going to be really cold. but stop giving him any attention because yes its charlie being charlie and since he doesn't want to stop, then stop caring.
But this would be his family and yes its very painful but as he has openly said he DOES NOT WANT TO, then fuck him. let him od. and yes it would be calling his bluff as no, as much as i dislike him i don't want him to die, but if he wants to continue destroying himself, let him. However that doesn't excuse him from breaking the law either. Of course this is without the media frenzy but meh...i've started tunning that out.

on another note
i loved the part in some interview where he was wondering why they haven't started the show back up because he wants to work. hah, yeah no they hate your ass and don't want to work with you, get a clue.

kibbles

02-21-2011, 10:56 PM

hah, yeah no they hate your ass and don't want to work with you, get a clue.

I don't think it's simple as that, but more likely they recognize he isn't ready to work even if he thinks he can.

Irving Patrick Freleigh

02-22-2011, 12:28 AM

E! Online had a story about Charlie Sheen giving advice for Lindsay Lohan.

Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan aren't good people to give advice to each other, but they would make a nice episode of Celebrity Deathmatch, IMO.

God, how I miss that show. :(

protege

02-22-2011, 03:11 AM

I would like to say, though...why the HELL is this shit getting talked about on NPR?

It's the same reason Britney, Michael Jackson, etc. were on the news. Like Sheen, they're train wrecks...and/or the media has nothing else to report and thinks everyone else cares.

LexiaFira

02-26-2011, 03:10 PM

I don't think it's simple as that, but more likely they recognize he isn't ready to work even if he thinks he can.

agreed, you just said it better.
but i also think he is using all this attention to just further his self destructive ways. I wonder would sheen continue to do drugs and drink without the public attention? or it would continue just not be such a big deal in the public eye.
I say this having seen several friends back home go self destruct on themselves from self loathing issues and because the more people brought attention to it the more it continued and became worse until one did die and one almost died

AdminAssistant

02-26-2011, 03:27 PM

Well, the show is cancelled for the rest of this season. Honestly, after the things that Sheen said about the show's creator Chuck Lorre, I wonder if they'll bring him back at all. I don't think he realizes that Two and a Half Men revived *his* career. He did not save the show, the show saved him. He's just another burned out member of the Brat Pack.

blas87

02-26-2011, 07:51 PM

If someone called me a "nazi" and all the other mean names Sheen called the staff of the show, I'd say "good luck junkie, you're fired!"

Irving Patrick Freleigh

02-26-2011, 10:06 PM

Is it too late for me to add Charlie Sheen to my dead pool for the year?

I truly believe he's beyond help.

blas87

02-28-2011, 01:28 PM

It wouldn't break my heart, but it would surprise me. I highly doubt it. He's going to be around for a long, long time.

blas87

03-01-2011, 03:17 AM

And the douchebag is demanding MORE money per episode to come BACK to the show, due to everything he's been "put through" by the show's crew. Hahahaha, are you kidding me?

Wahh wahh I'm a drunk and a junkie, compensate me for my lack of self control and my refusal to get help! I want more money!!!

kibbles

03-01-2011, 09:49 PM

AdminAssistant

03-01-2011, 11:07 PM

If he's actually sober. He was completely high during that NBC interview. His life does interfere with the show, because they had to suspend filming because of his addiction and bad behavior. Plus, actors frequently have to sign "behavior clauses" where they promise that they won't do anything that will make the show or network look bad.

Plaidman

03-01-2011, 11:09 PM

I can understand being ticked at CBS, they essentially said they had no problem with Charlie, he came to work, did his job and did it good and was always professional.

If Charlie can stay sober as he says and his personal life never did interfere with the show, then why shouldn't he be given his job back?

Well, that was the whole bit when Charlie blasted and insulted the maker of the show, and did othe stuff, then turns around and demands more money.

Be like a child spitting in their mother's face, then demanding a big raise in their allowence the next day.

As for Charlie giving Lohan advice? I think it's great. Think about it. What would you rather have, a math teacher with a masters in math, or a math teacher who never done math in their entire life? With Charlie, he does have experence. He may feel it's too late for him to change, but not too late for her. He's been exactly where she is, and knows exactly what's she thinking and feeling. He can even point to himself. "This is what you'll end up life if you don't change. Addicted to drugs, people hounding you, and the only career you'll have if your lucky is a tv show, and forget about movies and singing, let alone modeling and other stuff. And you'll end up paying alimoney for any man you married who divorces you right after".

Is Charlie a mess? Yes. But he knows exactly how she is, and true experence in a field is vastly better then people who only read about experences.

lordlundar

03-02-2011, 03:34 AM

With Charlie, he does have experence. He may feel it's too late for him to change, but not too late for her. He's been exactly where she is, and knows exactly what's she thinking and feeling. He can even point to himself. "This is what you'll end up life if you don't change. Addicted to drugs, people hounding you, and the only career you'll have if your lucky is a tv show, and forget about movies and singing, let alone modeling and other stuff. And you'll end up paying alimoney for any man you married who divorces you right after".

The thing is, he doesn't think it's a problem. He still thinks he's God's gift to Hollywood and that he should be idolized instead of realizing that the shit storm of his life is his own damn fault. Now what sort of message do you think that's going to deliver?

Plaidman

03-02-2011, 04:12 AM

The thing is, he doesn't think it's a problem. He still thinks he's God's gift to Hollywood and that he should be idolized instead of realizing that the shit storm of his life is his own damn fault. Now what sort of message do you think that's going to deliver?

Could be an act to the public, easy to do with his past. None of us know the advice he gave her in private. He may honestly know the shit storm that is his life is his fault, but too prideful and/or lazy to change it now.

blas87

03-02-2011, 05:23 PM

He was on the Today Show or whatever morning glory nonsense show today, he looked sweaty and off, again, like he wasn't all there. He had all the right answers. He must have one hell of a publicist doing a hell of a lot of damage control.

He's claiming he never threatened his ex wife, and it's basically nonsense that she's filing a protective order against her.

Just LOOKING at him would be enough for me to want to get one! He looks like a strung out ax murderer!

Andara Bledin

03-02-2011, 05:43 PM

It's possible that he looks like shit because he's currently trying to dry out.

Or, he could just be strung out.

Hard to say without being involved somehow.

^-.-^

blas87

03-02-2011, 05:54 PM

Maybe both at the same time.

Either way, dude looks like shit.

He may be coming down or sobering up, because he was making sense (being an ass, but making sense), speaking in a normal tone of voice and not using curse words, but of course, if it's Today Show....can't really speak your mind too colorfully.

AdminAssistant

03-02-2011, 07:00 PM

I'm just glad that his kids are out of there. Whatever shit he's going through, his children shouldn't be made to watch.

kibbles

03-02-2011, 09:54 PM

I think if he should do an interview with The View. The View is fair and I think it would be a very good interview for Charlie to do.

LadyBarbossa

03-03-2011, 05:13 AM

I used to think he was playing himself on the show, but I was wrong. Charlie Harper is a MUCH nicer, more level-headed person than Charlie Sheen. He's an asshole of the highest (or lowest?) caliber, and the demand for more money pisses me off to high heavens. There are millions out of work right now, many people like myself stuck in retail hell barely scraping 15K a year and he wants more cash per episode? Fuck that.

Peppergirl

03-03-2011, 09:14 AM

Will someone please explain the stretched out white shirt he keeps wearing for interviews?

Jesus, I get that he's fucked up, but doesn't someone dress him for chrissakes?

AdminAssistant

03-03-2011, 01:48 PM

blas87

03-03-2011, 06:34 PM

Those are his "goddesses" as he calls them.

It seems he is wearing the same clothes day in and day out. Yuck.

lordlundar

03-03-2011, 09:02 PM

I heard that his publicist left him, so maybe not? Oh, and Fiance showed me an interview where he's talking to the porn star and model (two separate girls, mind) who were raising his twin boys. *headdesk*

You heard right. Sheen went onto another round of interviews blasting everyone in sight and his publicist finally had enough. When Sheen was informed of this, he said (in another interview) that he wasn't allowed to resign, so he was fired.

Plaidman

03-03-2011, 11:20 PM

Those are his "goddesses" as he calls them.

It seems he is wearing the same clothes day in and day out. Yuck.

Part of the reason I love Two and half men so much, the entire crew wear the same clothes day in and day out. It's like a cartoon that way.

kibbles

03-04-2011, 03:00 AM

I understand his anger at the producer, and from some of the interviews he did state there were people on the show more important to him that should get paid (i.e. the crew). I think there are several parts of the interviews where he do make some valid points.

Peppergirl

03-05-2011, 01:05 AM

I think there are several parts of the interviews where he do make some valid points.

That might be. The main problem is trying to wade past the crazy and actually try to see if there's any glimmer of sense in some of what he says. :D

Irving Patrick Freleigh

03-05-2011, 03:57 AM

I heard he's planning on making a trip down to Haiti with Sean Penn, whom I also detest.

To which I ask "Hasn't Haiti suffered enough?"

blas87

03-05-2011, 09:28 AM

That'd be the best and most valid definition of "douchebag parade".

Irving Patrick Freleigh

03-07-2011, 11:29 PM

Can't believe I'm the one to break the news, but Chuckie's apparently been fired (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/07/charlie-sheen-two-and-a-half-men-tv-fired-letter-warner-bros-television/) from Two and a Half Men.

At least he has his "goddesses" to console him.

kibbles

03-08-2011, 01:40 AM

On one hand I can understand how Charlie or anyone would think that the network blatantly broke their contract, but on the other hand I fully believe that this move may be the best thing for Charlie's long term health.

The success of the show or the whims of the producers are not worth one's health IMO.

AdminAssistant

03-08-2011, 01:54 AM

He's in a great deal of denial, and I can tell you from experience that people in denial don't get clean. He doesn't think he has any problems, and it's pretty clear to anyone who's seen or read any of the many interviews he's done over the past weeks that he has some pretty major issues.

As far as the show goes, 1) he isn't physically or mentally capable of work right now, and even if he was, chances are nobody else in the cast *wants* to work with him right now. 2) He lavished anti-Semitic insults on the show's creator and his boss. 3) He's almost certainly shattered any good behavior clause he may have signed. 4) He personally didn't want to come back, unless his pay was increased to $3 million an episode. Know how long it takes to film a 22 minute sitcom? Couple of days. He wanted $3 MILLION for that.

HYHYBT

03-08-2011, 02:31 AM

I think it would only be appropriate for the show to go on another half-season or so without him. The main set *is* laid out like the one from the end of Laverne & Shirley's run...

kibbles

03-08-2011, 02:38 AM

I don't believe his comments were anti-Semitic, but I do agree that he is unable to do any type of work right now. The thing is I see a lot of media harping on the fact that he is living with two women and I am thinking that if that's the way he wishes to live his life then that's his right.

I just wonder if he was and able to stay sober, would the media still think he needs "help" simply because his view of relationships are different from others?

Peppergirl

03-08-2011, 06:26 AM

I just wonder if he was and able to stay sober, would the media still think he needs "help" simply because his view of relationships are different from others?

Well, to be fair - I don't give two shits about the fact that he's living with two women. To each their own.

I care that he has, on NUMEROUS occasions (most of which have been verified and documented), been a violent, abusive, law-breaking asshole.

I care that he's got kids that are witnessing this freak show, and are likely going to need SERIOUS therapy because of it.

I care that THIS is what qualifies as 'entertainment' nowadays.

I care that he has surrounded himself with an enabling pack of yes-men, all of whom would NOT be there if it weren't for his money and/or quasi-fame.

Seriously? At what point do we stop blaming drugs/alcohol for shitty behavior and start making people like this take even an *IOTA* of personal responsibility for their actions?

Edited to add: Would an average citizen be permitted to brandish a machete around on a rooftop (whilst ranting like a loon) *without* police intervention? I ask this with all seriousness.

Irving Patrick Freleigh

03-08-2011, 10:45 AM

Edited to add: Would an average citizen be permitted to brandish a machete around on a rooftop (whilst ranting like a loon) *without* police intervention? I ask this with all seriousness.

*adds the above to his list of things he shouldn't do after a bad day at work

kibbles

03-08-2011, 09:25 PM

I care that THIS is what qualifies as 'entertainment' nowadays.

I care that he has surrounded himself with an enabling pack of yes-men, all of whom would NOT be there if it weren't for his money and/or quasi-fame.

This here I agree with 100% The View commented today about some media outlets still viewing it as funny and how it's a man that needs help. And the yes-men are not helping and Charlie has to get help and take personal responsibility for making his own decisions.

I care that he hopefully gets the help he needs.

Racket_Man

03-12-2011, 08:43 AM

*adds the above to his list of things he shouldn't do after a bad day at work

no that should be **** adds to the list of things you should NOT do while having a bad day AT work. :D

ExRetailDrone

03-12-2011, 05:17 PM

I heard about something ridiculous on the radio yesterday while heading to work. REALLY?! (http://www.ticketmaster.com/Charlie-Sheen-tickets/artist/1568566)

kibbles

03-12-2011, 08:26 PM

Eh, if he is sober and healthy I wish him luck in this new pursuit.

AdminAssistant

03-12-2011, 09:22 PM

Maybe he's thinking, "it worked for Conan, so it will work for me"??? I dunno, there isn't any way to make sense of the crazy. The one good thing? He's a walking PSA. Look, kids, this is what happens when you do cocaine/heroine/abuse alcohol/whatever the hell else he's on.