Rick Perry goes to war on Gay people

[Crazedclerkthe2nd]

It's no secret Perry is a fundamentalist christian who doesn't like gays, but in the past couple of days he has made that position abundantly, even shockingly clear.

Firstly, he stated that supporting human rights for gay people is NOT in America's best interests:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry said today that using foreign aid to combat human rights abuses against homosexuals in foreign countries is “not in America’s interests” and attacked President Obama’s decision to require U.S. agencies operating abroad to promote equal rights for gays as part of the administration’s “war on traditional American values.”

“Just when you thought Barack Obama couldn’t get any more out of touch with America’s values, AP reports his administration wants to make foreign aid decisions based on gay rights. This administration’s war on traditional American values must stop,” Perry said in the statement. “Promoting special rights for gays in foreign countries is not in America’s interests and not worth a dime of taxpayers’ money.”


Source:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/rick-perry-says-human-rights-for-gays-not-in-americas-interests/

And if that wasn't bad enough, he has a new campaign ad out trashing gays again and vowing to end Barack Obama's "war on religion"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA

Transcript of ad:

I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m a Christian, but you don’t need to be in the pew every Sunday to know there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school.

As President, I’ll end Obama’s war on religion. And I’ll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage.

Faith made America strong. It can make her strong again.

I’m Rick Perry and I approve this message.

[Rageaholic]

So his arguement is acceptance of gays = war on religion.

Another one I hope goes the way of Herman Cain and drops out of this race.

[guywithashovel]

Part of me wants to get riled up, but then I remind myself that people who think like this are a dying breed. With each passing year, more and more Americans support equality. I think conservatives know this, and it's why many of them are cranky.

Oh, and as for that ad, children ARE allowed to pray in school. The prayer just can't be mandated by the teachers. Of course, Perry and his ilk want it to be mandated by the teachers.

[HYHYBT]

Combining Perry's statements with the speech the Secretary of State gave yesterday, it's almost explicitly an endorsement of governments' beating, imprisoning, and/or killing their gay citizens. Surprising, to me, for one who wishes to win in the general election. Not sure yet whether it's *worrisome* or not; depends on how it's taken.

[Daskinor]

The whole silent majority and creation of the "Christians" as a political force was in a direct response to the Civil Rights movement and the legalization of abortion in the 60s. Before that Religion had a very small say on federal elections. All of the different sects of christianity hated each other. Prodistans hated Catholics, Catholics hated Baptists, everyone hated mormans, etc.....

So many elected officials downplayed their religious affiliations. But when major changes happened in our country, they where able to band together under common causes.

1. Civil Rights
2. Legalization of Abortion
3. Gay Rights

Well, number 1 is in and there is nothing that can be done about it. Almost half of Americans are in favor of gay rights. Mostly in the generational gap, where the younger are more in favor then the older. Another generation or two and the fight for Gay rights will be won. Abortion rights is the only one that is still up in the air. However its very problematic, it can be won or lost. If that happens it will be less of a political tool.

So keeping the gay rights and abortion fights alive give them more political capital to keep the religious base motivated and voting republican. Also it means that republican lawmakers have no desire to do anything about gays. They just want people to see they are keeping up the good fight.

[Andara Bledin]

Perry isn't a fundamentalist Christian. He's a soulless shill whoring his allegiance to the highest bidder, which right now means he acts like a fundamentalist Christian.

^-.-^

[Panacea]

Part of me wants to get riled up, but then I remind myself that people who think like this are a dying breed. With each passing year, more and more Americans support equality. I think conservatives know this, and it's why many of them are cranky.

Oh, and as for that ad, children ARE allowed to pray in school. The prayer just can't be mandated by the teachers. Of course, Perry and his ilk want it to be mandated by the teachers.

Children can also openly celebrate Christmas. Perry seems to be blind to the rampant Christmas marketing going on right now.

What can't happen is government agencies can't set up religiously themed displays. A Christmas tree is OK as it is not actually a Christian symbol. A Nativity scene is not OK.

Of course, multiple displays from different faiths is OK. But heavan forbid we celebrate Kwanza or Hanukkah at the same time as Christmas.

[bara]

By Odin's missing eye!
I do not understand what it is about gay people that these idiots hate so much. Ive met gay people, worked with them, served in the military with them. Gay people are just like everyone else! There are good honest ones and stupid ones. Their sexual preference doesnt have anything to do with it.

How the hell can we call ourselves a free country is beyond me when dipshits like that are able to get elected into any public office.

[crazeyal]

Perhaps going to YouTube and flagging it as inappropriate might do a LITTLE something???

[Sleepwalker]

They challenge gender roles. You would not believe how deeply scared and confused and angry these people get when someone steps out of their assigned roles, be it gender, class, age, etc.

[Rageaholic]

Perhaps going to YouTube and flagging it as inappropriate might do a LITTLE something???

Na leave it up. Let this destroy his campaign. :devil:

[lordlundar]

Na leave it up. Let this destroy his campaign. :devil:

Agreed. To quote Abraham Lincoln:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

[Caveat Emptor]

"Let's see, what issue to focus on...

Economy?...no...
Government budget problems and Congressional dysfunction?...no...
Homeland security?...no...
Gay bashing and religion in schools to cater to the right wing but potentially torpedo my campaign? YES!!!"

:(

[smileyeagle1021]

Gay bashing and religion in schools to cater to the right wing but potentially torpedo my campaign? YES!!!"

:(

No, the real :( is the fact that this will probably actually help his campaign... maybe not in the general election, but for the republican primary, let's face it, all it is any more is a contest to see who is the most homophobic or the most intolerant of different religions, or better, a combination of both, and he has just proven he has both in abundance.

[HYHYBT]

I just pray that if this sort of thing *does* get someone the nomination, that they're fool enough to keep going with it once the real campaign starts. Or at least find it impossible to smooth over.

[Skunkle]

I'm not sure I agree, Smiley. I think Perry and Bachmann are both just a bit *too* crazy for the general nomination. Right now I think it comes down to Romney or, maybe, Gingrich. While I think both Perry and Bachmann have their die-hard fan-bases, I don't think these are big enough to garner any significant amount of votes, and even if some of the official Republican Party bigwigs may approve of some of the stuff they claim to believe in, I think that - like, say, Sarah Palin - they're too likely to do the maverick thing and deviate from official doctrine. They're loose cannons - they can't be trusted not to run off on some insane tangent.

That ad from Perry is just... I have no words to describe his ad, so I'll paraphrase my own version, though it won't be as short and sour as Perry's. *ahem*

I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a Christian, but you don't need to be in the pew every Sunday to be a Christian. With "don't ask, don't tell" repealed, our country has taken another step toward what I consider to be the most basic tenet of the Faith: Love thy neighbor as thyself. Our kids can pray openly, but those who are not Christian are not forced to do so; similarly, celebrations of multiple winter holidays are allowed, being that this is not an all-Christian country and that, unless we make it so and force everyone to either convert or leave, I think this is a method to which the God I believe in would not object, being that our free will is a God-given feature. There is no 'war on Christians' or 'war on Christmas' - there are Christians and non-Christians who are both aching for something to be offended about, and this is all about their back-and-forth bickering, neither willing to give an inch because it would take away that reason to argue which they covet.

As President, Rick Pretty would drop straight into the usual croneyism crap that got us where we are now, peppered with whatever bits and pieces of Christianity he chooses to like and follow. Our county was founded explicitly as a non-religious institution, and while Faith is a great way to chart my own morals, it isn't something I should ever push on anyone else, as my sins are mine alone and no one else's sins (or even that they have any) need ever be under my purview.

Faith was held by our Founding Fathers on a personal level. It was never used as a rod to rule the people. And it shouldn't be - only God Himself should ever have the right to be in charge of Faith.

I'm Skunkle and I approve this message.

P.S. Wonder if Rick Perry will be one of those in line for the first printing (if it ever gets printed) of Schlafly's infamous Conservative Bible?

[tropicsgoddess]

I hope Rick Perry drops out, he's a fucking moron and we really don't need another George W. Bush in the office. The whole "war on gays" thing with the GOP to be honest is just used to skirt away from the pressing issues like the economy, health care and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[mikoyan29]

I hope Rick Perry drops out, he's a fucking moron and we really don't need another George W. Bush in the office. The whole "war on gays" thing with the GOP to be honest is just used to skirt away from the pressing issues like the economy, health care and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That's because the GOP doesn't really want to answer the hard questions about why the economy is where it is. With the 7.7 trillion given to banks under the table and the 2 trillion given over the table, you'd think they'd be a little freer with their loans. but then again...maybe not. And they don't really want to talk about Health care

[Evandril]

This video is one of the best responses I've heard of :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbrI3F7p6-o&feature=share

And rickyboy's video? 12k likes, and 400k dislikes so far...I don't see it doing him much good, so I've little problem with it staying up. Then again, I'm against censorship enough to dislike taking down any information....But that's me ;) I prefer to just show my side, and let people decide which way to go

[Hyena Dandy]

I hope Rick Perry drops out, he's a fucking moron and we really don't need another George W. Bush in the office. The whole "war on gays" thing with the GOP to be honest is just used to skirt away from the pressing issues like the economy, health care and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Even Bush doesn't seem to like him. When Perry was his Lieutenant Governor, Bush thought the guy was wacko. Which was weird, because Bush had got him to be a Republican.

[Evandril]

Even Bush doesn't seem to like him. When Perry was his Lieutenant Governor, Bush thought the guy was wacko. Which was weird, because Bush had got him to be a Republican.

Bush hasn't exactly been known for making the best choices, IMO ;)

[LexiaFira]

AGAIN, Rick perry is a sad sad excuse for a person that would lead us to ruin. Not if, but when and how long would it take. I am greatly disappointed that he got as far as he did voted or not, it leaves me with no faith in humanity, or rather in this case that my faith in humanity is now divide by zero there is a black hole there.
He is the reason i had wanted to leave texas for so long.
The fact that he publicly did this puts any and all rights to shame. If he is going to go against gays, go against himself because we all have something wrong with us. I am going to skip the go against this group or that because there is some quirk or something about each and every person that is wrong, or sinful or against god or what have you. Not just gays.
And please make no mistake i am for LGBT. Its not your sexuality, its you as a person.

[Hyena Dandy]

Bush hasn't exactly been known for making the best choices, IMO ;)

True. But my point, for the most part, was that this guy wouldn't be another Bush. He would be much, much worse. He'd be like Bush, plus Cheney, plus... Oh, who's that third guy.

...

I'm gonna say the EPA.

[Duelist925]

True. But my point, for the most part, was that this guy wouldn't be another Bush. He would be much, much worse. He'd be like Bush, plus Cheney, plus... Oh, who's that third guy.

...

I'm gonna say the EPA.

Bush, Cheney, Jafar, Frollo, Scar, , Hades, Cthulhu, AND the Schmooze, all rolled into one big steaming pile. :angel:

[wolfie]

Bush, Cheney, Jafar, Frollo, Scar, , Hades, Cthulhu, AND the Schmooze, all rolled into one big steaming pile. :angel:

Comparing Perry to Cthulhu is libelous - better hope that the Elder Gods don't read this forum.:devil:

[Cat]

My coworkers had "Cthulhu 2012" written on out whiteboard for a few days :)

[Skunkle]

Also noting that I think Republican lawmakers don't want to address problems like the economy, jobs, overpowered banks and health care/insurance problems because Republican lawmakers are part of the reason why the economy, lack of jobs, overpowered banks and health care/insurance ARE problems. And the way these things are running currently puts countless dollars into the pockets of the politicians and those who aid the campaigns of the politicians.

Why should they want to fix problems that, for them, are benefits?

[MadMike]

My coworkers had "Cthulhu 2012" written on out whiteboard for a few days :)

I saw a bumper sticker that said "Republicans for Voldemort" when I was on my way to work one morning. Actually made me laugh, and that's not easy to do. I am so not a morning person.

[Skunkle]

The "Republicans for Voldemort" stickers first appeared during the 2nd election that Bush won. I might still have one somewhere. I picked mine up at Comic Con that year, and I, too, thought they were really funny.