Rowan Clerk refuses Same Sex Marriage License

[Aragarthiel]

Who called that she as trying for martyr status?

[Tama]

She reminds me of Quark who tried to take a stand against the sweeping for-the-better changes in Ferengi society in the last few episodes of DS9.

She looks just as foolish...

[Rapscallion]

See, this is where we start seeing how her argument fails. Because not all Christian groups teach that same dogma.

Aye, but she chose one that does.

I saw it better described than I did elsewhere, when someone said that if you told a lie once when you, when a parent you can still tell your children not to lie.

Rapscallion

[BlaqueKatt]

It will fail, but it won't matter because the picture of her being escorted out of her office in handcuffs will be all over Fox "news" and will spark her GoFundMe retirement account. She is grandstanding her way to false martyrdom for personal gain.

except after the recent debacles gofundme changed their rules, her account was removed(It had only gotten $2).


So she has nothing but a record.

[Kheldarson]

I'm just going to leave this here:

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/09/4133...=17_2&ts_pid=2

[Racket_Man]

I'm just going to leave this here:

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/09/4133...=17_2&ts_pid=2

Did I just hear the faint voice of Rod Serling and some creepy music in the background???????

This is getting too bizarro-world for me.

[Andrew B]

Ok, good. I'm not the only one who got that feeling. The world is scarring me.

[s_stabeler]

To be fair, WBC AREN'T saying that she's wrong to refuse to issue same-sex marriage licenses. They're merely saying that she isn't following her religion properly.(their argument is that since ( in their view) God doesn't recognise divorce, then her subsequent marriages after her first are invalid, and so she is living in sin. It's notable that,if I understand the dogma correctly, the Catholic Church actually agrees on that point.)

in short: panic over, the WBC are still a bunch of idiotic bigots.

[Kheldarson]

And she's now appealed the contempt order:

http://www.wchstv.com/news/features/...l#.Ve2gJmLD_qB

[Greenday]

And she's now appealed the contempt order:

http://www.wchstv.com/news/features/...l#.Ve2gJmLD_qB

Can't say I'm surprised. Everyone knew this would be coming.

[Shangri-laschild]

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...e22949817.html

What she is doing didn't work when people did it about interracial marriage. It won't work now either.

[Kara_CS]

So now she's Abraham Lincoln.

I love how Huckabee destroys his own argument that Lincoln ignored a court decision and freed the slaves, and then how one branch of government shouldn't have authority over the other two. Because Lincoln freed the slaves with a proclamation issued under the wartime powers of the Executive Branch. And last time I checked, Christians weren't second-class citizens in the US (unless we're not straight and/or cisgender, but denying us rights has nothing to do with our religious beliefs).

Last week, she was Martin Luther King Jr and Rosa Parks. Now she's Lincoln. Within the next week, someone will compare her to Jesus.

[s_stabeler]

it's especially ridiculous when you realize that even IF there was a religious freedom argument, the two situations aren't actually comparable. ( Emancipation was not taking away any rights the slave owners had- it corrected an abuse of people's rights that had been ongoing for decades. The various civil rights campaigners didn't want LESS rights for white people- just that black people enjoyed the same rights as white people. Davis wants to be able to deny a right that gay people would otherwise be able to enjoy (marriage)

Not to mention that denying gay people the right to marry could also create a rather dangerous precedent- specifically, that it is possible to deny a human being equal protection under the law for a reason outside their control. ( or, to put at another way: how long would it take for someone to create a church that believes black people shouldn't be able to marry?)

[Shangri-laschild]

Emancipation was not taking away any rights the slave owners had

Sadly, people like her don't see it this way. They see it not as them taking away someone else's rights so much as their religious rights trumping or being more important. Nevermind the fact that this doesn't go against her religious rights and all the other reasons that the viewpoint is wrong. I'm sure there probably were slave owners who saw it as their rights to hold slaves being taken away.

how long would it take for someone to create a church that believes black people shouldn't be able to marry?)

Parts of Christianity have already had an argument against interracial marriage in the past so sadly I don't know that it would be too hard for them to do. Hopefully it helps that there is already precedent that people can't refuse to give out interracial marriage licenses due to religious reasons.

[Jetfire]

From what I'm hearing from another board; while she may not be directly getting money from the martyr status; her "lawyers" are raking it in. Many are saying that's why they are doing this (and encouraging her to stay in contempt); so they can keep making dough. They are using her profile case to raise their profile, and encouraging her to do things to keep her in the news.

Watch them wiggle when asked about fundraising.