No right to childfree spaces?!

[Peppergirl]

I wasn't aware everyone listened to music or showed their appreciation for something the same way.

But, of course! You're so silly.

[KnitShoni]

I wasn't aware everyone listened to music or showed their appreciation for something the same way.

[Medea]

I'm currently at uni, so in term time I have virtually no contact with children. Exceptions are fast food joints and shops, which I go to as little as possible (not to avoid kids, I just have a general disdain for shopping).
At home, it's an utterly different story. I'm the oldest of 4 girls, ages 17, 12 and 2! Don't get me wrong, I love my sisters, but when I return to this house full of children and their often bratty friends, I really miss my uni.
I'm not a child hater (as my user name might suggest to those classically educated) but age-restricted places are a god send in my opinion. I was a kid once and didn't enjoy going to places that weren't family-friendly. The pub was fine in summer because of the mini playground outside, but in the winter I just wanted to go home, or at least somewhere more fun!
I think it's outright selfish of this woman to expect to take her pweshush everywhere with her. Not only does it put restrictions on her friends, but can ruin other adults' enjoyment of their night, not to mention the child's. No matter how 'cool' this three-year-old is, I doubt she'd be that happy in a place where she couldn't join in the fun, got annoyed glares from everyone else and had no other kids to play with. Take your child somewhere she might enjoy, like a crèche or something, then go do your own thing (this is what my parents did when they needed to run long, boring errands) and pick her up afterwards, then everybody is happy!

[MadMike]

People who like an artist listen to the artist instead of trying to show how tough they are by pushing people.

Can't they do both?

[Red Panda]

People who like an artist listen to the artist instead of trying to show how tough they are by pushing people.

[MadMike]

So... people who go into mosh pits don't actually like the artist? I guess I'm the exception to the rule then.

[Red Panda]

I've been to plenty of concerts where the pit forms around the unwilling. Like was said it always forms up front, where people who actually go to concerts for the music stand . The mosh pit should be in the back, or preferbly out in the parking lot. Its not like it matters who is even performing as long as it is loud and fast. They could just turn a car radio on to a rock station and mosh away from the people who actually like the artist.

[MadMike]

While small children shouldn't be at concerts anyways, people who form mosh pits don't ever take into consideration those who go to concerts for music and to not be a jack ass and will form them around those who don't want to be part of it.

Have you ever actually been to that type of concert? I've been to plenty, and I have yet to see anyone try to form a pit around unwilling people, or drag them into it. Sure, it looks like they're trying to kill each other, but it's not like that at all. And if you fall, which will happen sooner or later, you'll find several pairs of hands reaching out to help you up.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Or maybe parents could not take their 3 year old to a Metallica concert. Now, if it's a teenager and an age appropriate band...then sure. 12 year old at a Taylor Swift concert? That's fine, although I find your choice of music horrendous. Of course, after seeing unattended 14 year olds at a Dresden Dolls concert (which went to almost 2 am), I swore to myself I would only go to age-restricted shows in the future.

When I went to see Nickelback, there were a fair number of twelve year olds in the audience with their parents. There also wasn't a mosh pit, as such.

When I went to see Slipknot/Slayer, there were a few kids there, and most of the parents had the sense not to stand right at the front, which is where the mosh pit always is. It never forms at the back or to the side, so if you stand at the front with your child, you are going to be in the thick of it.

Remember I said "most"? This stupid bitch took her kid with her into the pit; and ended up having to be taken out of there by security guards to prevent the child being crushed to death. The kid apparently was only there cuz Mommy Dearest couldn't be bothered getting a sitter.

[Red Panda]

If standing in a spot is so important to you that you are willing to risk your own and your child's health for it, you should REALLY re-evaluate your opinions.

Some people are like that. Some people also hate backing down to bullies. I never said I would do that if I had a child involved.

[AdminAssistant]

Or maybe parents could not take their 3 year old to a Metallica concert. Now, if it's a teenager and an age appropriate band...then sure. 12 year old at a Taylor Swift concert? That's fine, although I find your choice of music horrendous. Of course, after seeing unattended 14 year olds at a Dresden Dolls concert (which went to almost 2 am), I swore to myself I would only go to age-restricted shows in the future.

[Greenday]

Its a possibility the mosh pit was formed after the parent and the kid waited to get to where they were standing and are reluctant to let good spots go because some doofus wants to punch people instead of act like a decent human.

If standing in a spot is so important to you that you are willing to risk your own and your child's health for it, you should REALLY re-evaluate your opinions.

[Red Panda]

While small children shouldn't be at concerts anyways, people who form mosh pits don't ever take into consideration those who go to concerts for music and to not be a jack ass and will form them around those who don't want to be part of it. Its a possibility the mosh pit was formed after the parent and the kid waited to get to where they were standing and are reluctant to let good spots go because some doofus wants to punch people instead of act like a decent human.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Agreed. And if some idiot parent seems fit to drag their kid there, I am certainly not going to censor myself.

One thing that bugs me is when people take their children to rock concerts. Before anyone jumps on me, I don't mind a bit when the child is clearly into the music and has been supplied with earplugs, and is someplace out the way where the child isn't going to be pushed and jostled. But taking an earplugless child into the mosh pit? Are you serious? Way to ruin your child's hearing and ensure that they stand a good chance of being pushed over and injured!

[blas87]

I hear you there. Militant parents have made just about anywhere, even traditionally adult or childfree places now fair game for themselves and their snot bregades.

Yes, bars. They do go there with their kids. Now, if it's a sports bar type place with a restaurant like Applebees, I will only throw a fit if there is a baby up by the bar while a game is on or something. I expect kids to be at Applebees in general. But kids at taverns? Oh. Fuck. No.