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Why are some rights subsidized, while others are not?
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@OP: what rights do you see as being subsidized?
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Originally posted by mjr View PostIs a protest a form of "petitioning the government"? If it is in some cases, why to a lot of areas require permits (which must be purchased, and therefore cost money) in order to protest?
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Originally posted by smileyeagle1021 View PostThis is probably the best point I've heard yet. If you actually read the Bill of Rights, none of them are actually conferring rights on citizens, they are all restricting the rights of the government.
Yet, there's a constant debate about what the 2nd Amendment actually means.
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Originally posted by s_stabeler View PostThere's- by and large- a simple explanation.
Some rights are what i term "rights of limitation"- "Shall not" rights in other words. These rights are those that restrict another party. These need no subsidy outside enforcement of said right.
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Originally posted by Greenday View PostYou have a right to petition. No one is charging you to petition. Thus why should you get paid to do something that is free?
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Originally posted by mjr View PostConstitutionally I have free speech. The government won't just give me money to start a magazine, talk show, or whatever.
I have the right to bear arms. The federal government isn't going to buy me a pistol.
I have a right to "petition the government for a redress of grievances". The federal government isn't going to pay for paper, ink, envelopes, and stamps for me to write my Congressman and Senator.
I have the right to free exercise of religion. The government won't build me a church.
Same thing with the right to bear arms. No one is forcing you to exercise that right. You have to choose to. And there are free weapons out there so if you want to buy a gun, that's your decision to use a more expensive form of bearing arms.
You have a right to petition. No one is charging you to petition. Thus why should you get paid to do something that is free?
Do you NEED a church to practice freedom of religion? No. So why should you get paid for it? You have a freedom to practice religion without interference from the government. There's no religious requirement to spend money.
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There's- by and large- a simple explanation.
Some rights are what i term "rights of limitation"- "Shall not" rights in other words. These rights are those that restrict another party. These need no subsidy outside enforcement of said right.
Other rights, however, are what i term "rights of entitlement"- where the right is to something. For these, it depends on the right. (the government doesn't HAVE to buy you a house, for example, but it's generally accepted they have to rent you one- not a specific house, mind- at a price you can afford if the alternative is you ending up on the street,)
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Why are some rights subsidized, while others are not?
Let's get your take on it, forum.
I recently saw this question asked, and I thought it was a good one. If "Fundamental Rights" (i.e. those spelled out in the Constitution) aren't subsidized, why are other "rights" subsidized?
The basic premise was as follows:
Constitutionally I have free speech. The government won't just give me money to start a magazine, talk show, or whatever.
I have the right to bear arms. The federal government isn't going to buy me a pistol.
I have a right to "petition the government for a redress of grievances". The federal government isn't going to pay for paper, ink, envelopes, and stamps for me to write my Congressman and Senator.
I have the right to free exercise of religion. The government won't build me a church.
But then, other things that are considered "rights", are subsidized.
So, what's your take, forum?Last edited by mjr; 06-23-2017, 10:20 AM.Tags: None
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