Pro-life Tim Tebow Super Bowl ad

[elsporko]

Or in the case of abortion the innocent don't live with the consequences.

[jackfaire]

Or in the case of abortion the innocent don't live with the consequences.

Exactly. Glad to see you agree with me.

[linguist]

Tebow has every right to advocate against something that could have murdered him before he was even born or had a chance to play football

he can advocate all he wants, but politics have no place in football, and political ads shouldn't be allowed to be run during games.

[elsporko]

Exactly. Glad to see you agree with me.

So you agree babies shouldn't be aborted because they have no chance to decide whether or not they want to live or not live.

[the_std]

So you agree babies shouldn't be aborted because they have no chance to decide whether or not they want to live or not live.

Perhaps if it was a baby being aborted, maybe. But a cluster of non-sentient cells? They can't make a decision either way.

[elsporko]

They will become a baby, which is the same as aborting a baby

[linguist]

is birth control the same as aborting a baby. since, you know, gametes are also just cells without consciousness that will (in theory) become a baby.

[elsporko]

If you have a car with no tires and I set your tireless car on fire should I not get in trouble for destroying your car simply because it isn't completed yet?

[linguist]

once again you dodge around a question posed to you.

[elsporko]

You are dodging my question

[linguist]

if you did so to my car without my consent, yes, you should get in trouble. if i gave my consent for you to set my car on fire (in a safe manner) and it was legal to do so (like abortion is), then no you should not.

now maybe we can actually get to the question i posed first.

[ladyneeva]

Yes, my friend who had an abortion at 26 was totally just too lazy to raise a child. Because of course thats the ONLY POSSIBLE reason for an abortion. It totally can't be because of a medical condition that would inevitably lead to the death of both the mother AND the fetus if the pregnancy was allowed to continue.

Nope. She was just lazy and should have been strapped down to a bed and forced to continue the ectopic pregnancy.

What about rape victims and incest victims? What about fetuses suffering from lethal deformities? Should women be forced to give birth to "babies" that will just die within hours?

There are literally thousands of reasons why someone might choose to have an abortion. Very few of them are simply because the woman is "too lazy" to raise a child.

[jackfaire]

So you agree babies shouldn't be aborted because they have no chance to decide whether or not they want to live or not live.

Nope you seemed to be agreeing that abortion can't impact cells that are not self aware.

[Greenday]

They will become a baby, which is the same as aborting a baby

LOL not even close. You eat eggs but I bet you don't consider that the same as eating a chicken.

[jackfaire]

Elspork since life is so sacred your anti war right?