Arizona's Immigration Bill

[Hobbs]

As long as you aren't caught breaking a law, you have nothing to worry about.

Illegal detainment is still illegal detainment. Even if I've done nothing wrong, it is STILL ILLEGAL to detain me based solely on race.

[protege]

Name one country that does NOT deport illegal immigrants when caught?

I can think of several countries...that once *shot* immigrants trying to cross the border, including one with a certain "Wall" around a major city

I don't agree with the racial profiling at all. However...if you have one group of people who is committing crimes, unfortunately, you might detain the innocent ones as well. Also, you have to admit that the vast majority of people attempting to cross the border, simply happen to be from Mexico or points further south. No getting around that fact. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is.

Here's something else I've thought recently--maybe the reason that the Mexican leaders are ignoring the problem...is that they *want* their poorer citizens to leave? That is, they don't want to fix the problem...but instead foist it on someone else?

[Greenday]

Also I'd like to point out that the UN these days is about as effective as the League of Nations really was. The UN has no spine and can't be taken seriously.

[Hobbs]

Also I'd like to point out that the UN these days is about as effective as the League of Nations really was. The UN has no spine and can't be taken seriously.

That's why I support a stronger UN and other measures, but that's for another discussion.

[daleduke17]

The point is; AZ is talking about CUTTING OFF PEOPLE'S POWER, and not affecting an economy, which is what LA is doing. They'll be cutting off families from heating and cooling sources (seeing as summer is quickly approaching) and from cooking resources as well.

Then again, I don't expect AZ to be humanitarian about anything now.

Los Angeles doesn't want to do business with any Arizona companies, so Los Angeles is responsible if the power goes off in their city, not the companies in Arizona. So, you're wrong AGAIN, Hobbs.

[Hobbs]

Los Angeles doesn't want to do business with any Arizona companies, so Los Angeles is responsible if the power goes off in their city, not the companies in Arizona. So, you're wrong AGAIN, Hobbs.

AZ is responsible for CUTTING THE GODDAMN POWER.

You're wrong AGAIN, dale!

[IDrinkaRum]

Google Wolf Blitzer and the President of Mexico, Calderone.

At a State Dinner a couple of night ago, to the standing ovation of the Democrats, the Mexican President comdemned Arizona's law because of racial profiling. Never mind that Arizona felt so unguarded, so over-run, they had to do something to make the (legal) citizens feel protected.

Then Mr. Blitzer questioned the President of Mexico. One of the questions was what happened to those who sneak into Mexico illegally, can they get a job? Can they get a house to live in? And the President of Mexico said no. They have to fill out paperwork, have a background check to make sure they aren't criminals in their native land. They have to carry their papers with them at all times. Also, if it's found that there is a person in Mexico illegally, they are immediately deported back to their own country.

How then, can he condemn Arizona for doing what his own country does?

The only reason the Mexican President would encourage his people to leave would be to 1. Get U.S. Dollars into his country to help build his country and 2. Get more people out of the country so the government doesn't have to look after them.

The only real thing that will keep the illegals at bay and make everyone happy is by overtaking Mexico and forcing them to the 51st state.

[Hobbs]

Rum, didn't you say, "This isn't about race." So why are you only profiling the Mexican president?

[crashhelmet]

How then, can he condemn Arizona for doing what his own country does?

His country doesn't have laws that require their own citizens to carry documentation proving that they're a citizen and incarcerate and fine them if they fail to provide it when asked.

His country doesn't have laws allowing the people to sue their Law Enforcement departments if they fail to enforce their immigration laws.

There is a large population of "white" people in Mexico. Asians too. A lot of them are white collar workers in cities like Juarez, Guadalajara, Mexico City and a lot are the blue collar type in the tourist towns like Cancun, Cabo San Lucas, Acapulco, etc. They're all legal residents, if not citizens.

PLEASE tell me when the last time was that a "white" person was wrongly detained for being suspected of being in the country illegally. SURELY Fox News, Rush, Beck, O'Reilly and the rest of the lot would've mentioned it by now.

The only real thing that will keep the illegals at bay and make everyone happy is by overtaking Mexico and forcing them to the 51st state.

Not hardly. You want to keep the illegal immigration problem at bay? Start going after and penalizing the employers that hire the illegal workers. Eliminate what is drawing the immigrants over. If they can't work, they won't come up.

CH

[lordlundar]

Los Angeles doesn't want to do business with any Arizona companies, so Los Angeles is responsible if the power goes off in their city, not the companies in Arizona. So, you're wrong AGAIN, Hobbs.

Unfortunately, it's not the power companies that get the choice to refuse, it's the state elected representative.

In other words, the politicians are deciding what the companies do simply to stroke their egos.

[Kimmik]

Rum, didn't you say, "This isn't about race." So why are you only profiling the Mexican president?

How pray tell is she profiling the President of Mexico?

[Hobbs]

How pray tell is she profiling the President of Mexico?

She quoted him and highlighted his visit here, didn't she? That's considered a profile.

[Boozy]

So, you're wrong AGAIN, Hobbs.

AZ is responsible for CUTTING THE GODDAMN POWER.

You're wrong AGAIN, dale!

The two of you need to take it down a notch or you'll get the thread closed.

[Fryk]

She quoted him and highlighted his visit here, didn't she? That's considered a profile.

If quoting is profiling, and profiling is wrong, then we'd better go ahead and close down all news agencies in all media outlets.

[Kimmik]

She quoted him and highlighted his visit here, didn't she? That's considered a profile.

She was quoting him, as if you are in Mexico with out papers your screwed... but he has no issue with migrants coming from his country here illegal, and he so much as said it.

Then Mr. Blitzer questioned the President of Mexico. One of the questions was what happened to those who sneak into Mexico illegally, can they get a job? Can they get a house to live in? And the President of Mexico said no. They have to fill out paperwork, have a background check to make sure they aren't criminals in their native land. They have to carry their papers with them at all times. Also, if it's found that there is a person in Mexico illegally, they are immediately deported back to their own country.

But he has a problem when our states make it harder.. see what is wrong with this picture