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  • Gravekeeper
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    Originally posted by mjr View Post
    Just following your lead.

    But I'll ask you the same question others have refused to answer: What does "the right of the people" mean?
    Where did I argue semantics?

    How about you answer the point I was making instead of shifting goal posts on me? I was not arguing anything about the wording of the 2nd Amendment. I wasn't even arguing anything about gun control to begin with. I was taking issue with you invoking a political bogeyman and putting it on par with the wild west.

    If you can't defend your point, don't make it in the first place.

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  • mjr
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    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    So, ignore the point and try to play semantics? -.-
    Just following your lead.

    But I'll ask you the same question others have refused to answer: What does "the right of the people" mean?

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  • Gravekeeper
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    Originally posted by mjr View Post
    A protest that turns violent is no longer a protest. Correct?
    So, ignore the point and try to play semantics? -.-

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  • mjr
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    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    No, it isn't. It's ridiculous. You're comparing protests turning violent to having to fend off bears and natives in time before modern civilization. In a discussion about gun control.

    A protest that turns violent is no longer a protest. Correct?

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  • Gravekeeper
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    Originally posted by mjr View Post
    Because it's relevant.
    No, it isn't. It's ridiculous. You're comparing protests turning violent to having to fend off bears and natives in time before modern civilization. In a discussion about gun control.

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  • s_stabeler
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    Originally posted by Cia View Post
    Originally posted by s_stabeler View Post
    That's why I suggested making the person who makes the straw purchase liable, since they definitely do know they are intended to go to someone not legally allowed to purchase a gun.

    Sorry, I read it as the store owner not the straw purchaser. That might help on cutting back on straw purchasers until you get an actual innocent one who was stupid and purchased for their buddy who conned their friend into being a protective layer against prosecution. "I didn't buy it, he did."
    So make it accessory liability- the actual shooter still goes to jail, and accessory charges are more flexible in punishment, so you can account for someone merely being stupid.

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  • mjr
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    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    Dogs attack and kill more people in the US than Antifa ever has. Yet you wouldn't argue you need a shotgun to protect yourself from roving packs of hounds. So why in the world would you bring that up?
    Because it's relevant.

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  • Gravekeeper
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    Originally posted by mjr View Post
    Post #52. Last sentence.
    To be blunt that doesn't actually answer my question. You brought up Antifa in response to a point about the dangers of the frontier?

    Dogs attack and kill more people in the US than Antifa ever has. Yet you wouldn't argue you need a shotgun to protect yourself from roving packs of hounds. So why in the world would you bring that up?

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  • Cia
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    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    Or just institute a 48-72 hour wait period before you can actually get the gun. Would reduce a lot of crimes of passion and suicides.
    South Dakota repealed it's 48-hour waiting period in 2009. It used to be no waiting period for long guns, no waiting period for handguns when in possession of a valid CCW and a 48-hour wait for no CCW.

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  • Cia
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    [QUOTE=s_stabeler;169352]That's why I suggested making the person who makes the straw purchase liable, since they definitely do know they are intended to go to someone not legally allowed to purchase a gun.


    Sorry, I read it as the store owner not the straw purchaser. That might help on cutting back on straw purchasers until you get an actual innocent one who was stupid and purchased for their buddy who conned their friend into being a protective layer against prosecution. "I didn't buy it, he did."

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  • D_Yeti_Esquire
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    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    How did you guys get from the Las Vegas shooting to Antifa? -.-
    Oh you know, the usual "What about xxx"

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  • mjr
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    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    <snip>
    The fascists don't give a crap about your protests or your Facebook posts. Words don't stop fascism.
    I concur with your post here, Greenday. That doesn't give ANTIFA (or anyone, for that matter) the right to just punch someone in the face.

    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    How did you guys get from the Las Vegas shooting to Antifa? -.-
    Post #52. Last sentence.

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  • Gravekeeper
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    How did you guys get from the Las Vegas shooting to Antifa? -.-

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  • Greenday
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    Originally posted by Canarr View Post
    And when you say, „usually”, you mean, “70+ years ago”, right?

    I’m curious: Is that actually your proposal for fighting people following fascist ideologies within your own population? Gun them down in the streets?
    Saddam? Taliban? Qaddafi?

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  • Canarr
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    And when you say, „usually”, you mean, “70+ years ago”, right?

    I’m curious: Is that actually your proposal for fighting people following fascist ideologies within your own population? Gun them down in the streets?

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