Chicago Car Salesman Fired For ...

[Andara Bledin]

Are you seriously saying you look down on someone on the basis of what sports team they support? I honestly don't know what to say.

Shallow as a spit-puddle, is what that is.

^-.-^

[Greenday]

Shallow as a spit-puddle, is what that is.

^-.-^

Just look how much I care. Look.

Keep looking.

And looking.

And now you have just experience more than half the country who seriously follow sports.

[Andara Bledin]

And now you have just experience more than half the country who seriously follow sports.

My family is heavily into sports (other than me). They make a point of coming into town (a 360 mile drive) just to go to Lakers games.

And, yet, they can still manage to not judge other people just because they happen to like the Jazz, instead.

Go figure. 9.9

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[Gravekeeper]

I can't speak for the dealership, but my office has a dress code and not abiding it will get you written up and your arse fired. Though no joking would be involved. Especially if it was something you could easily take off or cover up but refused too. And yeah, sports stuff is on the list here. ( Or anything with obnoxious logos, etc ).

[daleduke17]

However, is this even legal?

Could Mr. Stone get unemployment?

Should Mr. Stone have been fired?

Yes, it is legal. Illinois is an at-will employment state.

No. He was really fired for insubordination.

Yes. For insubordination.

[MadMike]

My family is heavily into sports (other than me). They make a point of coming into town (a 360 mile drive) just to go to Lakers games.

And, yet, they can still manage to not judge other people just because they happen to like the Jazz, instead.

Exactly. Most people I know are into sports, and have their favorite sports teams. About the only people in my circle that don't give a rat's ass about sports are myself, my wife, and my son.

But no one I know is fanatical about it. The worst I've ever seen over sports teams is friendly ribbing. Nothing wrong with that. But when I see grown men act like big babies over whose sports team is better and whose team sucks, they annoy me even worse than sucky customers do.

And yeah, sports stuff is on the list here.

I was thinking about that just the other day -- I may have missed this in the article, but was all sports stuff disallowed, or only certain teams? If it was the former, I don't see a problem. If it was the latter, that just seems wrong. Either all of it should be allowed, or none of it should.

Yes, it is legal. Illinois is an at-will employment state.

Yes, I get that the manager could fire him over something as trivial as a tie. But just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[Ginger Tea]

And yeah, sports stuff is on the list here.

Does this also mean anything you might have to wear only to and from work and leave in your locker?

[Hyena Dandy]

While I'm not exactly... Passionate about sports. I probably wouldn't notice if someone was wearing a packers tie. Or... I'm from Boston, so I guess... Are the Jets their rivals? I mean, it looks like it from Greenday's comments.

I don't think its right to dislike people based on their favorite sports team. But, that said, people WILL dislike people based on their favorite sports team.

I don't have all the context here, but it seems that the manager was perfectly justified in telling him to remove the tie. As for firing him, I don't know, it would really depend on weather or not there had been a history of insubordination.

Still, it seems to me that the manager spelled it out pretty clearly that either the tie goes or he goes. I don't think its easy to take that as a joke if the manager called him into his office to talk about it.

[Gravekeeper]

Does this also mean anything you might have to wear only to and from work and leave in your locker?

No, if its something you can take off and store or cover up that's fine. If not, you'll be sent home to change ( and marked as late for it ). If you refuse, well, that's a firin'. Though if its something particularly obnoxious ( like an offensive jacket or shirt ) you'll be asked not to wear again to work, even if you can take it off/cover it up after the fact.