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  • Talon
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    Update: Jailer admits he falsified logs on when he checked in on Bland.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/form...MG1_3E.twitter

    The jailer told him in the deposition he noted in the jail log he observed Bland in her cell at 8:01 a.m., less than an hour before she was found strangled by a noose made from a plastic trash bag,” reports The Houston Chronicle. “In fact, jailers never checked on Bland or about a dozen other inmates that hour, Lambert said.
    I wonder what else the jailer lied about. But special prosecutors allegedly knew about the falsified logs, but the grand jury still no-billed.

    W.T.F.

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  • Rageaholic
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    The arresting officer was indicted for perjury. It's a misdemeanor, but at least he faces some punishment for his abuse of power. The Bland family is also suing him for wrongful death.

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  • Gravekeeper
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    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    Didn't she kill herself?
    Negligence

    Conduct that falls below the standards of behavior established by law for the protection of others against unreasonable risk of harm. A person has acted negligently if he or she has departed from the conduct expected of a reasonably prudent person acting under similar circumstances.
    At least follow the one sentence you quoted. -.-

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  • Rageaholic
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    Yes, he had no reason to arrest her to begin with.

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  • Greenday
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    Originally posted by Rageaholic View Post
    She did. And it had absolutely nothing to do with being locked up by some cop on a power trip.
    The same cop that Gravekeeper said can still be indicted for being a royal fuckup?

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  • Rageaholic
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    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    Didn't she kill herself?
    She did. And it had absolutely nothing to do with being locked up by some cop on a power trip.

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  • Greenday
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    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    So, as usual, if you negligently or purposely kill a black person and are in any way involved in the legal system, no worries!
    Didn't she kill herself?

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  • Gravekeeper
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    A Texas grand jury has declined to indict anyone involved. No one at all. Not the jailers, not the officers, not anyone that was suppose to be watching her, no one. Not a single employee of the jail.

    Yet ironically, the arresting officer is still open to indictment.

    So, as usual, if you negligently or purposely kill a black person and are in any way involved in the legal system, no worries!

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  • Kara_CS
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    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    Dude, seriously, wtf? I already covered this a few posts back. It doesn't matter what YOU think of this because state policy says her answers automatically required the prison to contact a magistrate to consider a mental health evaluation and subsequent suicide watch, etc. It is not the jail's call to make. You're seriously embarrassing yourself at best and making yourself look like an ass at worst here.

    Also, as someone with PTSD who has been suicidal, you think this shit just magically goes away?
    Precisely. It doesn't go away and even if a suicide attempt was years ago, there are policies that require immediate steps to be taken. Sure, we correctly assumed that 9 times out of 10, and inmate having thoughts of suicide or having difficulty breathing was just them wanting attention because they were bored or upset about something, but we followed protocol to the letter every single time. Every. Single. Time. Because when someone has been taken into custody, the custody holder is responsible for the welfare of that person. They become the responsibility of the state (or county, in the case of jails). If something happens to that person while they are in custody that could have been prevented, the custody holder will be held accountable. It's CYA 101.

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  • Rapscallion
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    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    Pretty sure in America, you have to be the one who killed the person to commit manslaughter.
    Not always over here. I think it's known as corporate manslaughter if negligence by officers etc results in the death of an employee.

    Rapscallion

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  • Gravekeeper
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    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    Did she say she was suicidal at the time of being booked? NO!
    Dude, seriously, wtf? I already covered this a few posts back. It doesn't matter what YOU think of this because state policy says her answers automatically required the prison to contact a magistrate to consider a mental health evaluation and subsequent suicide watch, etc. It is not the jail's call to make. You're seriously embarrassing yourself at best and making yourself look like an ass at worst here.

    Also, as someone with PTSD who has been suicidal, you think this shit just magically goes away?

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  • Andara Bledin
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    Greenday, you really need to take the cop-tinted glasses off when you wade into a thread about cops acting like assholes.

    Because otherwise you end up spouting shit that is patently untrue and has been covered more than once in the very thread you're commenting in.

    It's entirely predictable and rather tiresome, really.

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  • Kheldarson
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    Originally posted by Greenday View Post

    Did she say she was suicidal at the time of being booked? NO! She said she tried to kill herself once. So either we treat everyone who's ever tried to commit suicide as permanently suicidal (Which is God damn ridiculous) or we assess them currently. It's fairly logical to say her one single suicide attempt was situational and that situation does not apply to the day she was booked so she wasn't a threat to herself. Many normal people would have made that conclusion.
    Except the original intake document has her answering that she's felt suicidal in the last year, been depressed, and feels that way now. Even by situational definition, that should be pegged as "needs more watching".

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  • Greenday
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    Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
    You really need to stop responding to threads before reading them, dude. >.>
    Did she say she was suicidal at the time of being booked? NO! She said she tried to kill herself once. So either we treat everyone who's ever tried to commit suicide as permanently suicidal (Which is God damn ridiculous) or we assess them currently. It's fairly logical to say her one single suicide attempt was situational and that situation does not apply to the day she was booked so she wasn't a threat to herself. Many normal people would have made that conclusion.

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  • Gravekeeper
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    This would fall under criminally negligent homicide/manslaughter to use US legal terms I think. The problem is its a systematic failure on multiple levels by multiple people so there's no real one person to charge with anything. Multiple errors both minor and major, collectively causing a fatal one. With a larger problem being the review so far revealed a good part of it was inadequate training of the prison's staff.

    Civilly, however, good luck to the prison/department defending against the civil wrongful death case.


    Originally posted by Greenday
    Seeing as that was situational and she was not pregnant or had not recently had the same issue, did they REALLY have any reason to believe she was about to kill herself?
    You really need to stop responding to threads before reading them, dude. >.>

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