Miss California?

[smileyeagle1021]

It seems in the entertainment world if you're not a flaming liberal that's willing to feliate Obama at the drop of a hat then you have trouble finding work.

As a slight off topic... if they were a true flamer they wouldn't really like Obama due to his refusal to halt DADT discharges until congress can rework the laws (actually, if you are a non bigoted conservative that bothers you too, because that policy is one of the biggest wastes of tax dollars imaginable) and his lack of movement on social issues.

Better phrasing for that sentence... if you aren't a democrat suck up who will kiss the ass of any democrat in power, then you have trouble finding work.*

*said by a democrat

[Tanasi]

I just don't think she got a question that was any harder or more controversial than Miss Arizonas question.

She was asked about socialised medicine an equally "hot topic" if she had handled the question wrong. Her answer by the way was terrible as well because she didnt actually answer the question. There was also another question about Afganistan and I think immigrants. They werent exactly "easy" questions.

Aside from the fact she actually answered the question poorly (imo), even if you disregard her actual answers subject matter, she invents terms like 'opposite marriage' wtf? Her syntax was poor, she could barely muster a full sentance. It was a repeat of the disaster also known as Miss Teen South Carolina... "such as" and the maps for children. I can't speak for americans but I would hope they would want a Miss USA who can form a sentance on the spare of the moment.

Her behaviour since the competition has only confirmed that she is a nasty person allround.

Not everyone lays down when attacked, some fight back. Regardless of how she answered the question or it's controversy, she was asked her opinion and she's being/been punished for having a different opinion that Perez Hilton and others. You can try to spin it anyway you want but that's the truth. The new Miss California has the same opinion is she being drug thru the press as Prejean??? No, because the Lewis fellow knows he's shit and fell back in it, and he has too big an ego to let go of Prejean. In other words he's acting like a little bitch. It seems in the entertainment world if you're not a flaming liberal that's willing to feliate Obama at the drop of a hat then you have trouble finding work. Is that fair??? If so then look out because things are going to get a lot worse.

[kiwi]

And going back to the topic of Miss Cali... can we all agree now that the question was completely out of place for a beauty pageant?

I just don't think she got a question that was any harder or more controversial than Miss Arizonas question.

She was asked about socialised medicine an equally "hot topic" if she had handled the question wrong. Her answer by the way was terrible as well because she didnt actually answer the question. There was also another question about Afganistan and I think immigrants. They werent exactly "easy" questions.

Aside from the fact she actually answered the question poorly (imo), even if you disregard her actual answers subject matter, she invents terms like 'opposite marriage' wtf? Her syntax was poor, she could barely muster a full sentance. It was a repeat of the disaster also known as Miss Teen South Carolina... "such as" and the maps for children. I can't speak for americans but I would hope they would want a Miss USA who can form a sentance on the spare of the moment.

Her behaviour since the competition has only confirmed that she is a nasty person allround.

[AFPheonix]

Considering homosexuality holds at a certain percentage of the population and has since stats have been collected on it, and that it has been proven that it results from genetics and from uterine environment, and is not harmful to the person, I think it can be safely considered normal.

Now, people who wear diapers and crap in them to get off, THAT'S freaking abnormal.

[Nyoibo]

I would consider it the default, but not normal, I consider normal whatever the particular persons brain and heart says is normal. But then we, just as the government, know that people don't know what's right or best for them.

(need a tongue in cheek smiley)

[anriana]

What's called "heterosexual" I think should just be considered normal, or the default. It's only when comparing normal sexuality to other forms of sexuality that it becomes useful to refer to it as heterosexuality.

I, and I will assume every other non-heterosexual person, am quite glad that you are not in charge of classifying sexuality.

[Rubystars]

The whole dichotomy of hetero/homo seems to be a social construct. What's called "heterosexual" I think should just be considered normal, or the default. It's only when comparing normal sexuality to other forms of sexuality that it becomes useful to refer to it as heterosexuality.

[smileyeagle1021]

I think being "a" homosexual is a social construct that people have learned to identify as one of the types of people available to be in this cultural context.

for clarity, would you say the same of heterosexuals?
Are you a heterosexual or just someone who just identifies with a social construct?

And going back to the topic of Miss Cali... can we all agree now that the question was completely out of place for a beauty pageant?

[daleduke17]

To re-rail this conversation it's looking like Prejean was rail-roaded by that Lewis fellow that runs the Miss California organization.

It was a Catch-22. They asked for HER opinion. They got it, didn't like it and started finding any way to find a candidate that matched their beliefs.

There might be other things but so far I've not heard of any.
I think the Donald is going to be very cross providing he can tear himself away from rasslin with Vince McMahn.

Please don't bring that load of crap up. The way Raw is going, I'm about done with it.

[Tanasi]

To re-rail this conversation it's looking like Prejean was rail-roaded by that Lewis fellow that runs the Miss California organization. Her lawyer was on tv last night and he said the "appearances" she missed were optional and if she had attended she wouldn't have been allowed to wear the crown and sash.
There might be other things but so far I've not heard of any.
I think the Donald is going to be very cross providing he can tear himself away from rasslin with Vince McMahn.

[Rubystars]

The main reason I've focused on the sexual aspect of these relationships is that I don't really think of someone as being "a" homosexual, but someone who does a homosexual act.

I think being "a" homosexual is a social construct that people have learned to identify as one of the types of people available to be in this cultural context. Of course social constructs are fairly strong things. Someone can self-identify as being "a" homosexual because they fit the criteria of that social construct.

A man who rapes another man isn't necessarily "a" homosexual, but he has committed a homosexual action. Someone who never has sex at all but feels attraction to other people of the same gender might consider themselves to be "a" homosexual, but that's only a social construct that they identify with because they never actually had sex.

[Flyndaran]

I've always thought the aversion to buttsex went something like this: "omg a guy being penetrated? But that's for women. What if someone is thinking about penetrating me? Oh and santorums. Ewww."

I'm a hetero male and I don't want anything anywhere near my rear end.
I also find the idea of having sex with males really gross. Honestly, I think my girlfriend's icky for wanting to have sex with me.

[Flyndaran]

I can't think of any non-religious argument against gay rights.
Two consenting adults loving eachother can't be wrong. If your religion says it is, then I reject your hate filled beliefs.

[kiwi]

although it can really relieve a bad case of constipation....

omg blas you just about killed me I choked on my drink

[Flyndaran]

Pregnancy?

*runs and hides*

Actually that is a legitimate concern for fertile hetero couples. No need to think it's a joke with the sheer numbers of unwanted babies out there.