New Secession Petitions to the White House

[AdminAssistant]

I don't hate any of the "Yankee" states... or yankees, for that matter. I do hate the sneering attitude adopted by some people* towards the South in particular and rural white people in general. However, although they choose to generalize me, I will not in turn generalize them.

*Generally those in urban areas, especially on the East or West Coast, and especially Canadians. I get it, you live in a Socialist Paradise and you have Tim Horton's. But it's pretty nice down here, too.

[crashhelmet]

Hmm the latest seems to be there are petitions for all 50 states..but for some reason I get the sneaking suspicion that they were started by the same set of people (a very select few), and a lot of the signatures are the same on all the petitions. I mean come on, what are we in kindergarten? Things don't go our way and suddenly we want to take our ball and go home?

((Oh and I know I should not be one to talk..my spelling and grammar is horrid..but it is born and bred...))

What about people born and bred in the south but raised in the North? Who's parents are both 'southerners' (Kentucky and Florida)?

The thought of them being submitted form all 50 states doesn't phase me at all.

California is and probably always will be a "Blue State" but there were still 4.2 million people that voted for Romney. 25,000 people out of 4.2 million is roughly .6 percent of those voters. It's not even enough to be considered a drop in the bucket.

[Mytical]

Hmm the latest seems to be there are petitions for all 50 states..but for some reason I get the sneaking suspicion that they were started by the same set of people (a very select few), and a lot of the signatures are the same on all the petitions. I mean come on, what are we in kindergarten? Things don't go our way and suddenly we want to take our ball and go home?

((Oh and I know I should not be one to talk..my spelling and grammar is horrid..but it is born and bred...))

What about people born and bred in the south but raised in the North? Who's parents are both 'southerners' (Kentucky and Florida)?

[Tanasi]

It's just too bad that their guitarist is Ted Nugent.

He does come on a little strong doesn't he???
Even I think he needs to dial it back a bit.
Not that it's any better but he's a Michigan damnyankee and not a NY damnyankee.
We might have to do a pole amongst the born and bread southern folks here to find out which damnyankee state is the worst.

[crashhelmet]

I don't know, I like some of their songs myself.

It's just too bad that their guitarist is Ted Nugent.

[Mytical]

The last thing we need is more damnyankees.

I don't know, I like some of their songs myself.

[Tanasi]

And why would we want to kick out New York?

So all those damnyankees can legally be declared persona-non-grata and we can then keep them out of my state. The last thing we need is more damnyankees.

[Tanasi]

cowboy 1 - This salsa was made in New York City...
other cowboys - NEW YORK CITY?!
cowboy 1 - Get a rope.

The first time my Dad and I saw this ad, we spontaneously shouted out "Lynch him!", in a horribly bad Texan-ish accent, in perfect unison, before the last line was spoken. Wonderful moment

I have a friend who's son lives in NYC and everytime they visit him or he visits them I ask if they brought me any salsa.

[HYHYBT]

How about kicking New York out??? Surely we can get salsa from another state!!!

And why would we want to kick out New York?

[EricKei]

They [Puerto Rico] have to have a state Constitutional Convention first. But their local government can now call for one, draft a constitution, and if it is approved by the voters and ratified by Congress they will be come a state. It's about time, really.

I can speak only for an old and dear friend of mine who grew up in Puerto Rico -- it was his experience that a large chunk of the populace (apparently somewhere around the 50/50 range, if not higher) actively do NOT want to become a state, as it would mean paying taxes (and certain other responsibilities) towards certain benefits (like military "protection" and the ability to vote) that they currently get more or less for free. On the other hand, there are also many people there who say that they should become a state for exactly that reason -- that it's about time they contribute as others do, and for the associated rewards like full voting rights in national elections, etc.

How about kicking New York out??? Surely we can get salsa from another state!!!

cowboy 1 - This salsa was made in New York City...
other cowboys - NEW YORK CITY?!
cowboy 1 - Get a rope.

The first time my Dad and I saw this ad, we spontaneously shouted out "Lynch him!", in a horribly bad Texan-ish accent, in perfect unison, before the last line was spoken. Wonderful moment

[violiav]

I think this may be the straw that breaks the elephants back. The break in the GOP my come sooner, rather than later because of this. How is fox dealing with this, by the way? I don't have cable so I don't get to news surf anympre

Posted from my phone.

[lordlundar]

Well they hit the level of getting a response but no guarantee on what the response will be. I would find it hilarious if the response was the president just laughing at their insanity.

[violiav]

The likely hood of secession is slim to none, on the none side. Esspically when there is no state backing. Texas is no stranger to secessionists, those nut jobs are a dime a dozen here.

[mikoyan29]

With the exception of Texas, they are mostly net recepient states. Let's see how well they survive on their own when they aren't getting almost double what they pay in taxes.

[daleduke17]

As of tonight the following petitions have enough signatures to require a response:

Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Louisiana and Texas (89,xxx signatures). If people knew how to do research (not make duplicate petitions), then Missouri and South Carolina would be added to the list. Tennessee is within 1,000 signatures and Oklahoma is within 5,000. Seven states with enough signatures. Two more close. That is roughly 20% of the nation. Obama better be making a real effort here to get the Federal and State governments in agreement on what to do so there is some sort of talks to smooth everything over.

Also, if some states do get to the point of secession I don't think they would go it completely alone. I could see a few different groups come from this:

- Texas Republic (Texas)
- Desert Alliance* (New Mexico/Arizona)
- Bear Republic (California)
- Confederate States of America (Tennessee/Georgia/Florida/Alabama/Louisiana/South Carolina/Arkansas)

California could probably hold its own without Federal Aid. CSA would be interesting if it got off the ground for more than four years. It would have a great likelihood of succeeding. It wouldn't be built around slavery this time and would have advantages that weren't around in the 1860s (communications, international commerce, technology, etc).

So, while it would be a horrible thing to see states secede, it would be interesting to see them attempt it.

*sorry, cool name IMO