Gay Exorcism?

[BroomJockey]

So, even if a person dies during an exorcism, it's still alright?

No, you cannot consent to being killed.

[Savannah]

No, you cannot consent to being killed.

Technically you could say that you would rather be dead than under the devil's influence, and so consent to being killed if the exorcism didn't work. (Shaky legal ground, I know.) However, I suspect that someone who wanted to be killed because they thought they were possessed wouldn't be of sound mind, and therefore would not be able to consent (which I suspect is what you are saying).

If the kid asked for it, and the parents ok'd it, then no, the church did nothing wrong, they were simply complying with the wishes of the teen.

Initially, I thought that too, but I’m wondering if the teen actually had the information he would need to consent. The article doesn't say whether the teen's parents are members of this (or a similar) church. If he is 16-18 and has been raised his whole life in this kind of church, is he really able to consent to the exorcism? By which I mean, does he have any idea what other options might be available? Did he parents pressure him in any way? If someone chooses exorcism freely, then the church is within its rights to perform one if they want to, although I don't agree with them. However, if the person is pressured or uninformed, then I think that putting them through such a stressful situation is abusive.

[BroomJockey]

Technically you could say that you would rather be dead than under the devil's influence, and so consent to being killed if the exorcism didn't work. (Shaky legal ground, I know.)

Unless something drastic has changed, no, not shaky, NON-EXISTANT legal ground. You cannot give permission to be killed. The closest you can come is a Do Not Resuscitate order in a hospital. Anyone who causes you to die is guilty of a homicide, whether you said to go ahead or not.

[Savannah]

NON-EXISTANT legal ground.

True, now that I think about it. I was initially thinking of physician assisted suicide as being a situation where you could consent to being killed, but that REQUIRES that you be of sound mind and not depressed, so it doesn't apply to this situation. My bad; disregard that point

[BroomJockey]

I was initially thinking of physician assisted suicide

Even then, it's suicide, not them killing you. Just different enough for lawyers. Also, lawyers are weird.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Interesting link here: http://www.parmaq.com/truecrime/MurderBy.htm

Also, I can't remember the name of the guy, but this guy met another guy online who he paid to murder him. He also had his penis cut off and fried and ate it himself. O.o

[Slytovhand]

Interesting link here: http://www.parmaq.com/truecrime/MurderBy.htm

Also, I can't remember the name of the guy, but this guy met another guy online who he paid to murder him. He also had his penis cut off and fried and ate it himself. O.o

BJ, your "Lawyers are weird" just got trumped!

[BroomJockey]

BJ, your "Lawyers are weird" just got trumped!

Lawyers are still weird, and it seems in that case, there wasn't enough evidence to firmly prove that he pushed his friend, thus a lesser charge was leveled against him. Jury nullification, at the least.

[Savannah]

Even then, it's suicide, not them killing you. Just different enough for lawyers. Also, lawyers are weird.

*sigh* Yes. And you have to be terminally ill. I was tired, sorry. (I'll agree about the lawyers, too!)

Even if you want someone to kill you and therefore consent, it pretty much never ends well for the person who killed you under the current laws. (Besides, if you eat your own penis, you probably aren't sane enough to agree to much of anything! ) Getting off topic...

[Flyndaran]

*.. (Besides, if you eat your own penis, you probably aren't sane enough to agree to much of anything! ) Getting off topic...

Not if it's your religion to eat your body parts. In the U.S. saying, "It's my religion!" is like saying, "A wizard did it." It automatically wins nearly every argument.
See still on topic.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Great Simpsons reference there.

Anyway, I wish I could remember that guy's name; I've looked but I can't find the story. -.- It was pretty big, tho; it's got to be there if only I could find the right thing to google.

[joe hx]

so what are they going to do when they exorcise this gay demon out of the boy only to discover that the boy himself is gay too?

[Slytovhand]

so what are they going to do when they exorcise this gay demon out of the boy only to discover that the boy himself is gay too?

Exorcise the other demon??