People who have no idea what racism really is....

[Plaidman]

Ok, fine, look at this way the Dr.

Say you have made 60 threads about SCs.

In 50 of them, you have posted about a Black person doing various things.


(granted, it's an extreme example).

This can make one come to only a few conclusions.

1: You live in an area with nothing but black people
2: You only notice when a black person does something bad, and not when any other race does it.

Sure, you may claim your not a racist, but when your majority threads have nothing but saying this black person did this, (Yet nothing in the story has any bearing on said race, like him going off on you because they think your racist for example), then the above are really the only two one can conclude. The first one can make sense, but a good chunk likely wouldn't see that and jump to the second one, IE "Wow, that poster sure posts a bunch of stories on black people, haven't seen any on asian, or whites even"

On the same hand, if you want to go off on how your just /describing/ the person, how often do you really state "So this white guy came in and did this"? From what I seen from those that must describe the person's race, they only go "This person", unless it's a different then white American, in which case they are more then willing to go "This Mexican" or "This Russian".


Yeah, you may scream your not racist all you want, but when your actions dicate otherwise, people can rightfully assume that your indeed a racist.

EDIT: I type in a flash too. But I tend to skip words, not add them due to thinking far faster then I type. So I don't buy that Oh I just added that person's race that was different from mine because I type fast.

[DrFaroohk]

And for those of us who key like the flash, sometimes it really is inadvertant anyway. Sure you can go back and change it, but still.

It's just part of the story.

I look at it this way: Who knows better if I'm being racist? You or me? You do? Really? You can read my thoughts, my intentions, my personal feelings? You're suddenly part of the psychic friends network? I didn't think so. Which leaves ME. The only person who really knows for sure is me. Therefore, its my word on the subject we'll be taking, unless you can pull something better out of your ass.

[BlaqueKatt]

Basically, unless said race is a major or minor part of the story, there is no reason to write it.

sorry to pick on ya Plaid but aren't you in a creative writing class?

Use descriptive writing to make your readers feel your pain.

they actually have the reasons for doing it posted there-it's to bring people closer to the actual experience.

for example:
the horse ran through the meadow and sniffed some flowers.

vs

The golden-maned horse thundered through the lush green meadow and then it stopped. It bent its neck to the green grass and sniffed the sweet smell of the colourful flowers.

[Plaidman]

In days gone by, here's something that would often happen on the CS boards.

A member would post a rant about an SC he recently encountered at work. During that rant, said member casually mentions the fact that the SC was black, Hispanic, Asian, or something else (e.g. This black guy started tearing into me over the store's policy even though there was nothing I could do about it! What a jerk!). Then, a PC enthusiast would reply with something like "I agree that he was an SC, but what does his race have to do with it? It sounds like you may have prejudged him before the encounter even happened."

That's another thing. If I'm describing a bad encounter with someone, and I happen to mention the fact that the person is black, female, Asian or whatever, it's a description, not a tacit admission of racism.

True, but this isn't like in person encounter. One may inadvertly mention race, with typing its chosen. Not saying that it means said poster is racist, but unless race is important to the story, then why are you typing the race then? It's not important. You could write that it was a blue woman that screamed at you, and the story would stay the same. Idioitcy is all around, and its not based on race. That, and if anything, by posting the race, you might be furthering the /proof/ that some members need that all race X is horrible. (We do have racist members here).

Basically, unless said race is a major or minor part of the story, there is no reason to write it.

[DrFaroohk]

Exactly. I meant to include that very thing as well but forgot. It's just a description. By those people's standards, you could argue that even saying "this guy came in" would be sexist, since why does it matter he's a dude? You could say "this person came in" and now you're humanist, because why does it matter he's a person?

People get way too uptight.

It would be racist if you said "Man, this black guy came in the store...and how I hate black guys! Anyway this black guy came in - god men are so stupid -...."

[guywithashovel]

In days gone by, here's something that would often happen on the CS boards.

A member would post a rant about an SC he recently encountered at work. During that rant, said member casually mentions the fact that the SC was black, Hispanic, Asian, or something else (e.g. This black guy started tearing into me over the store's policy even though there was nothing I could do about it! What a jerk!). Then, a PC enthusiast would reply with something like "I agree that he was an SC, but what does his race have to do with it? It sounds like you may have prejudged him before the encounter even happened."

That's another thing. If I'm describing a bad encounter with someone, and I happen to mention the fact that the person is black, female, Asian or whatever, it's a description, not a tacit admission of racism.

[DrFaroohk]

Inspired by my ultra liberal friend who's in town, I just have to rant...

Not Racist: "That dude has really dark skin."

Racist: "Let's go hang that dark skinned guy!"

Not Racist: "That dude has really slanty eyes."

Racist: "LET'S GO KICK THE FUCK OUT OF THAT SLANTY EYED DUDE!"

Not Racist: Here's a personal one: I honestly can't tell the difference between "brown" people. They even joked about this on South Park. I simply don't see a huge amount of people from each region to be able to identify them. It's just a simple fact. I see a dude with slightly brown skin, he might be from israel, or he might be from mexico. Even brown-skinned actors play multiple roles. It's not racist. It'd be like calling someone racist because they can't tell the difference between someone from Montana and someone from Maine.

Racist: "I don't tolerate no brown people in my town!"

One being an observation, which I don't see as racist. Yeah, guess what. African Americans have dark skin. Chinese people have slanty eyes. White people have pale skin. It's actually true. I don't see how it can be racist. Treating someone negatively because of their race, that's racist.

Like on seinfeld - just because you find chinese women attractive doesn't mean you're racist. And if you don't find chinese women attractive, that's still not racist. We're talking about aesthetic appearances here, not the "person inside". You're making a visual judgement based upon visual clues. No matter how much someone kicks and screams about it, its simply not racist.

Ok, done ranting for a bit. Feel free to call me racist now...lol....