Swearing

[Rapscallion]

Yeah, but since you hate homosexuals, are you really qualified to lecture me on that?


Oh, I thought we were making stuff up. My mistake.

Seriously though, I never said I was better than anyone. I'm better at certain things than some people, certainly.

Just what are you on about? I'm trying to make sense of your posts and arguments, and I can't.

Rapscallion

[DrFaroohk]

Oh, I thought we were making stuff up. My mistake.

Seriously though, I never said I was better than anyone. I'm better at certain things than some people, certainly.

Edit : Removed comment.

[dendawg]

*Post removed by mutual agreement of dendawg & DrFaroohk*

[DrFaroohk]

Nothing bs about it. If its wrong to wrangle the rules until they fit a perception you like, then no one can. If its totally acceptable, then I get to to do it too. What's so wrong with that idea?

[dendawg]

^ So that means that you get to do it too, by default?

Thats a bullshit justification if I've ever heard one.

[DrFaroohk]

Because, as the general populace seems to claim, such behavior is WRONG. So if its wrong when I do it its wrong when they do it.

[Rapscallion]

There is something wrong with it, so did this actually happen? Why does it make it better when you sought out a loophole and abused it?

Rapscallion

[DrFaroohk]

So you don't see anything wrong with people who abuse their power, such as using it for personal gain? Or do you?

[jackfaire]

As for two, it's not about if there was anything wrong. If there was something wrong worth calling me for, it would've been seen. It's wrong to "look for reasons" to get someone in trouble. Again violating the spirit of the law.

This should in no way be legal. You either have a crime or you don't. You don't get to try and find something to charge them for. That violates the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law was not to harass people who you think have a smart mouth, it's to protect us from hijackers. These people were not hijackers.

Personally I don't think finding a way to peg someone for something they did wrong violates any spirit of any law unless that law is, "No one ever gets in trouble for anything they did wrong ever"

As for sitting down with a rule book well I kind of have to applaud them for that. I mean after all how else would they have put Capone in jail.

[DrFaroohk]

Okay couple of things here knowingly abusing a loophole is violating the spirit of the rules which to me is what matters.

"I didn't technically murder her she happened to walk under an anvil I 'accidentally' dropped"

So yes violating the spirit of the rules in my mind is a bad thing and makes the person in the wrong.

If someone were scouring a person's posts that means two things.

One that person is to be pitied for they are pathetic and have no life.

Two if you don't violate the rules in spirit or by the letter of the rules then that person will find nothing and it won't matter.

Be Dresden my friend and politely tell Morgan to sodder off.

This is all good and well. But it needs to be consistent. If we're arguing that the spirit is more important, fine. But when I find a "spirit of the law" that benefits me, I expect it to be followed.

As for two, it's not about if there was anything wrong. If there was something wrong worth calling me for, it would've been seen. It's wrong to "look for reasons" to get someone in trouble. Again violating the spirit of the law.

Sort of like a story in the news I read once - some people put a rather condescending note in their luggage before getting on the plane, with the intention that the security people find it. It was basically like "you're an asshole for searching my bag!"

So the powers that be literally sat down in a room with a law book and tried to FIND something to get them in trouble for, because they were pissed.

This should in no way be legal. You either have a crime or you don't. You don't get to try and find something to charge them for. That violates the spirit of the law. The spirit of the law was not to harass people who you think have a smart mouth, it's to protect us from hijackers. These people were not hijackers.

[jackfaire]

Yes, I do that all the time. Is there something wrong with that? Is it a bad policy? Does it make me wrong evne though technically no rules were violated?

I know, that's largely fantasy, but still, if it happened would you think it was ok?

Okay couple of things here knowingly abusing a loophole is violating the spirit of the rules which to me is what matters.

"I didn't technically murder her she happened to walk under an anvil I 'accidentally' dropped"

So yes violating the spirit of the rules in my mind is a bad thing and makes the person in the wrong.

If someone were scouring a person's posts that means two things.

One that person is to be pitied for they are pathetic and have no life.

Two if you don't violate the rules in spirit or by the letter of the rules then that person will find nothing and it won't matter.

Be Dresden my friend and politely tell Morgan to sodder off.

[DrFaroohk]

You looked for a loophole so you could willfully violate their rules and then you got caught and called on it.

Yes, I do that all the time. Is there something wrong with that? Is it a bad policy? Does it make me wrong evne though technically no rules were violated?

If tat's the case, it works both ways. It's not ok for the others to look for loopholes to find reasons to punish me.

For instance if there was some mod who had a really personal problem with me. From real life. he knows raps won't let him just ban me because of personal feelings, as i haven't done anything wrong, so he starts scouring every one of my posts really trying hard to find something, anything, he can pin on me so he can get rid of me.

I know, that's largely fantasy, but still, if it happened would you think it was ok?

[jackfaire]

My one rule is no swearing in front of children.

Often children are either impressionable or been taught not to say anything to adults that are bothering them.

If it bothers an adult they may politely ask me to knock it off but god forbid if your rude to me about it.

[blas87]

Day shift at work is not allowed to swear at all. Because their boss doesn't like it.

Is it against policy? Not really. It doesn't say anywhere that you can't swear. It just says to conduct yourself in a professional manner. Everyone swears. I don't work with anyone as bad as Dane Cook. But because this woman says she's religious and swearing "offends" her, NO ONE can swear. I guess the next step in this retarded thing is my boss won't allow pink because she doesn't like pink.

By the by, my mom is the most religious person I know, and she says "God Dammit" and "Jesus Christ!" more often than ANYONE I know.

Someone has to tell that boss that this is a factory, not a church. Get over it.

On the other hand, while I usually have a low to moderate level of swearing and am pretty tolerant of it, my ex boyfriend was HORRIBLE about it. We got into many huge fights at home because we'd been out to dinner and he was motherfucker-ing cocksuck-ing bitchassmothefuckingdouchebag shithead asshole-ing in front of a table of old people or CHILDREN with parents glaring at us!!!! I mean, I'm not one to always think of others, especially children, but that much profanity is just unacceptable in front of other people in public.

It didn't do any help when I'd tell him to stop swearing, he'd just scream at me with a few more swear words, or if I let one slip later, he'd scream at me that I was a hypocrite. Err....I am swearing in the car. Not at Applebees in front of a family with small children talking about being drunk and starting a fight with a stupid faggot who wanted to suck my dick I just knew it so I was going to fucking pound his face in.

[PepperElf]

It's also worth noting that posts on most forum softwares contain a report icon so you can alert the staff to posts that are problematic. We do rely on members helping to keep the sandpit clean as well.

Rapscallion

I kinda wish that option was available for PFB. As it is we have to email in...
or reply in such a way that it brings attention to the offense. (especially since i think some of us get our posts 'reviewed' more than others at times which means we can take advantage of that fact...)


now i've also been to forums and chat groups that allowed absolutely no swearing whatsoever, not even "F**K" or "WTF" or "gay" - if being used to mean 'lame', or anything else that could be construed as foul language. I had a lot of fun using "blessed" when I really meant something entirely different .... although we did ask one of the british moderators if she considered "bloody" to be on the no-no list (but that was in fun and it made her laugh I think).