Father Teaches Daughter Lesson About Facebook

[jackfaire]

Prove it. She was punished for publishing it in a permanent way where anyone who had the real desire to see it could. Not one of the ways you mentioned could nearly as easily have gotten anyone in trouble.

The fact that never at any point in the video does he say it's the fact she published it on Facebook is the reason she is in trouble. It is the fact she said it.

Which means that the venue only mattered in that he mocked them for "thinking they were being clever"

He was clearly punishing her for having given voice to her complaints in the first place.

His focus throughout the video was continually about what she said and not where she said it.

If he had been upset about where she said it more than what she said then he would have been going on about the dangers of Facebook and how there are more appropriate forums for her rant.

I spent a lot of my teen years on the internet and had similar situations where my dad a software engineer would find that I had complained about him and my mom online or various other things in my life. He never told me not to complain he simply educated me not to complain online because I might give away personal details that would allow people to hurt me.

He bought me a journal as a more appropriate forum to vent instead of punishing me for venting.

[Greenday]

She could have written it in a journal in her room kept under her bed and her dad still would have punished her when he snooped for found it and read it.

Said it to her friends in a closed door session and dad overhears. Punished.

Spoken in her dreams while talking in her sleep and dad happens to be checking on her. Punished.

Prove it. She was punished for publishing it in a permanent way where anyone who had the real desire to see it could. Not one of the ways you mentioned could nearly as easily have gotten anyone in trouble.

[jackfaire]

Because it shows how "private" information isn't private at all.

The only truly private information is that which lives only in our own heads. The instant you express it outside of your mind then it has the potential to become public so if we are arguing that the problem is she posted on Facebook then we are back to arguing that she should not have expressed the opinion in any forum as all have potential to become public.

She could have written it in a journal in her room kept under her bed and her dad still would have punished her when he snooped for found it and read it.

Said it to her friends in a closed door session and dad overhears. Punished.

Spoken in her dreams while talking in her sleep and dad happens to be checking on her. Punished.

The only safe thing for this girl is to smile grin and pretend she never gets mad at her parents until she graduates and can get the hell out of there.

[Greenday]

What the hell does that have to do with this? I'm well aware of Facebook's shitty user agreement and general design flaws. But that has nothing to do with this topic and changing the subject to that in no way supports your argument.

Because it shows how "private" information isn't private at all.

[Gravekeeper]

Facebook owns every single thing you put on that website. Every status update, every note, every picture belongs to facebook. And it's all available to whoever wants to purchase it (Ad companies, the police, etc.) Think you can't be searched because you have it "private"?

What the hell does that have to do with this? I'm well aware of Facebook's shitty user agreement and general design flaws. But that has nothing to do with this topic and changing the subject to that in no way supports your argument.

[jackfaire]

Somehow I get the feeling that someone who shoots up a laptop wouldn't care what the CPS does.

Nor would anything in the letter itself make CPS think she was being abused since the closest she comes to accusing them of abuse is saying they make her go get things for them instead of doing it themselves which they probably do but CPS would back up the parents on that one.

The only part of this whole situation that would have CPS showing up on the doorstep is the video of him shooting her computer.

[Greenday]

Facebook has privacy controls. My Facebook is not public.

Facebook owns every single thing you put on that website. Every status update, every note, every picture belongs to facebook. And it's all available to whoever wants to purchase it (Ad companies, the police, etc.) Think you can't be searched because you have it "private"? Nope. If you are tagged in any pictures by someone who isn't you, I just have to go to that picture, click on your name that's tagged and I'm viewing your profile. And that's just one way to access the profile of someone who isn't your friend that you can't view by searching the regular way.

[KnitShoni]

Somehow I get the feeling that someone who shoots up a laptop wouldn't care what the CPS does.

How does what someone does to an inanimate object indicate how they would react if CPS were to take their children away?

[Gravekeeper]

How many more times must we go over this?

Facebook has privacy controls. My Facebook is not public. You can't get a shred of information about me from it publically. No one can see any of my details, nor any of my posts, nor any posts of my friends or family. Facebook is only as public or as private as you set it to be.

She tried to set this post to be private from her parents and I'm guessing her Facebook page itself is set as private too seeing as it hasn't been dragged out and slathered across the Internet in response to this story. All that matters in this discussion is that she tried to make this private. The fact she failed does not negate her intentions.

Somehow I get the feeling that someone who shoots up a laptop wouldn't care what the CPS does.

Shooting up the laptop in front of the world after a Facebook post gets CPS's attention would likely help their case ;p

[mikoyan29]

Facebook is a lot closer to being public than it is private.

He doesn't have to read it. All it takes is the wrong friend or relative or whatever to read it and CPS comes knocking at the door over nothing.

Somehow I get the feeling that someone who shoots up a laptop wouldn't care what the CPS does.

[Greenday]

I'd hardly call facebook public. Because, guess what, it's not. Oh, someone might "say" it's public, doesn't mean it.

Public is in the street. Outside of my house. In McDonalds. Something you need to buy a machine with specialized hardware and a further connection to the great world wide web isn't exactly public. It's not 100% private, but it's hardly public.

And once again...if you do not like it, you do not read it. How friggin hard is it to understand that? Don't like it? Don't read it! It's so simple, I have no idea why people throw such headfits over this shit. Did the entire world turn into 9 year olds?

Facebook is a lot closer to being public than it is private.

He doesn't have to read it. All it takes is the wrong friend or relative or whatever to read it and CPS comes knocking at the door over nothing.

[KnitShoni]

It's on the internet. That's about as public as you can get.

Why should the "If you don't like it, don't read it" apply to parents and children? I wouldn't like reading about my daughter being abused, taking drugs, or wanting to kill herself. Does that mean if she were to post it online, I shouldn't read it because it probably wasn't "meant for me"?

Also...how are you supposed to know you don't like something if you don't at least read part of it?

[DrFaroohk]

Not doing it somewhere so public.

I'd hardly call facebook public. Because, guess what, it's not. Oh, someone might "say" it's public, doesn't mean it.

Public is in the street. Outside of my house. In McDonalds. Something you need to buy a machine with specialized hardware and a further connection to the great world wide web isn't exactly public. It's not 100% private, but it's hardly public.

And once again...if you do not like it, you do not read it. How friggin hard is it to understand that? Don't like it? Don't read it! It's so simple, I have no idea why people throw such headfits over this shit. Did the entire world turn into 9 year olds?

[Greenday]

And what would be the appropriate manner because what I get from this guy is that complaining period is wrong.

Not doing it somewhere so public.

[jackfaire]

without complaining in an inappropriate manner like a normal kid would.

And what would be the appropriate manner because what I get from this guy is that complaining period is wrong.