Execution delays

[Greenday]

why stop there, again this gets into the "what if they are innocent" / cry pedo teritory, but why not go whole hog and remove it all together
manginas for the rapists, give the shower rapists (oh the irony) two holes to choose from

Let's cut off theives' hands!
Let's cut off the feet of anyone who runs from a cop!

[Ginger Tea]

But I also believe that pedophiles should be chemically castrated and kept away from children forever.

why stop there, again this gets into the "what if they are innocent" / cry pedo teritory, but why not go whole hog and remove it all together
manginas for the rapists, give the shower rapists (oh the irony) two holes to choose from

I know a guy who did time and when pushing the tea urn to the undisirables block the guards would pull it aside tell him to wait and they would take a dump in it, needless to say he knew not to use that urn for the regular inmates

[Greenday]

I'm usually only for the death penalty in extreme cases. If there is good evidence for you having committed murders in three or four separate cases, you're probably guilty of at least one or two of them.

Except you have to prove it so that'd be a really sloppy assumption.

Executing a criminal is not about justice, or revenge.

You're kidding yourself if you think that's what the death penalty isn't about. If we aren't trying to get justice and revenge, we wouldn't be murdering anyone.

[radiocerk]

I'm usually only for the death penalty in extreme cases. If there is good evidence for you having committed murders in three or four separate cases, you're probably guilty of at least one or two of them.

Executing a criminal is not about justice, or revenge. It's putting down a mad animal who cannot or will not be rehabilitated. People who have killed several people, especially in multiple murders, sociopaths, and the like. These people will never be "normal members of society". These are the ones who need to be put down for the public's protection. But I also believe that pedophiles should be chemically castrated and kept away from children forever.

[Ginger Tea]

as we in the UK don't have corporal punishment anymore, I'm more for "in for life" which in the UK can be 5 years parole after good behaviour
It's true that msicarrages of justice happen and you can't bring someone back to life and say "oops we got the wrong man"
So I am more than willing to see life mean life, which as I say rarely means that over here anymore, only a few and thats at the home office's discression do die in jail of old age.
If it takes your family and supporters till you are 60 to prove you are innocent, atlesat you are alive when released from death row

[RavenStarr]

To those of you that are for the death penalty I ask this. Does it bother you that there have been people who after they were executed were later found to be innocent? This is one huge reason why I'm against the death penalty.

If you had to choose which would you rather have? A guilty man go free, or an innocent man executed?

[Ginger Tea]

some one on death row shouldnt be getting a higer education, books to read and learn from I;m ok with, the whole education so they have something when on parole so they don't reoffend shouldnt apply to death row as they unless proved innocent later, shouldnt be up for it

we're gonna kill you even if its by old age
you're only getting out of here in a box
etc

[Greenday]

As far as prisoners getting an education, it's part of the rehabilitation. It's so when they get out of jail, they have an option that isn't crime.

Then when they get out of jail, they still have to mark down on resumes that they are felons and they won't get the job you may be after.

[blas87]

I wouldn't mind paying extra money if it meant that violent murderers finally got their just desserts instead of buffing up and getting free college education and time to plot for what to do when they get out early for "good behavior".

I don't like to see my tax dollars supporting prisoners with luxuries that I can't afford. Mainly, college. Sure, they don't get to go outside and go to the store and the club and to the movies, but they get three square meals a day and clean clothes and air conditioning. Even that is up in the air as to if I get that or not, considering my bad luck with AC this past summer. I was at a point where I couldn't always eat, the last time I was laid off and had my hours cut.

I will whole heartedly agree with you on the college thing, Admin, and the just enough to keep them alive and no parole, if the death penalty is not an option. But for all things holy, stop giving murderers the opportunity for parole.

[AdminAssistant]

I don't think they should go to college. I think they should be forced to sit in a plain cell with just enough food to keep them alive. No opportunity for parole. The "taxpayer's money" argument is a wash because it actually costs more to execute someone than to keep them alive.

[Greenday]

Murder. Execution. Same exact thing, just spelled different.

[linguist]

Yup pretty much. Eye for an eye. And frankly I figure by the time someone gets sentenced with the death penalty they are proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt and all that.

you mean like cameron todd willingham, who was convicted "beyond a shadow of a doubt" and executed for setting the fire that killed his children, only to find after his death that the evidence used to convict him was faulty and based on outdated fire investigation techniques, and the fire was in fact most likely accidental?

or any one of the dozens on death row who've since been released based on dna evidence?

or timothy cole, who was convicted of rape (again, beyond a shadow of a doubt) and sentenced to life in prison, who then died in prison after being denied proper medical care for an easily controlled affliction? he was found to be innocent after the true rapist came forward years later, after the statute of limitations had run out. in the ensuing investigation into his conviction it was found that the woman who was raped had never actually seen his face, and was pressured into identifying cole by the investigating officers.

[blas87]

That's kind of a slippery slope because an executioner is an official who is designated to do this kind of thing, and there are witnesses and medical staff on hand, should anything go wrong. A little different than a situation with mobsters or pimps or drug lords who designate themselves as being in charge of murdering people.

[Greenday]

You can't say killing someone is okay in this case, but not okay in the other. That's like saying, "Nobody should steal, but since I REALLY needed this item, I had to steal it. I REALLY needed it though so it's okay." Murder is either all okay or never okay.

[blas87]

Keeping them in prison so they can go to college, exercise, and best of all, be up for parole within years of killing someone? I think not.

I can't even afford college and I'm a law abiding citizen. And my tax dollars go to feed/clothe/shelter these monsters who kill people in cold blood. No.

That idea would only work if they were not coddled, and killing someone in cold blood did not earn you parole within 5-10-15 years of imprisonment.