Intruding Prudes

[Plaidman]

Driving is needed. Eating all the boxes of Little Debbie's a store has is not.

Drinking is not needed.
Illegal drugs, such as crank, cocaine, heroin are not needed, and cause just as much, if not more, problems to healthcare.

People MURDER for those drugs.

People do NOT murder for Little Debbie cakes.

[Red Panda]

Driving is needed. Eating all the boxes of Little Debbie's a store has is not.

[smileyeagle1021]

I agree smokers cause alot of problems as well. Not as many though plus some fat people are also smokers doubling the negatives

Seriously, smoking doesn't cause as many problems as weight?
I don't know the exact stats, but I know from family experience that breast cancer (which is simpler to treat than lung cancer) will cost between $100-200k.
Not to mention, smokers directly effect those around them in ways other than looking unpleasant (many people have allergies to cigarette smoke, I personally get migraines if I'm exposed), yet you don't see me demanding that smoking be outlawed.
Illegal drugs are another one that negatively affect all people (tax dollars for prison terms, higher rates of violent crime, and with certain drugs extremely rapid spread of diseases, HIV being one of the worst).

Hell, we want to talk about the biggest cost to the nation?
Driving.
Millions of dollars being sent out of country for oil.
The environmental and health damages from oil spills.
The health costs from smog.
The lost time stuck in traffic.
Countless deaths directly from unsafe driving.

I don't see you railing against people who drive.
Almost everything that everyone does in some way negative.

[Amanita]

And it's usually health food fanatics who campaign to have various food items removed or restricted- those who want to force their beliefs on everyone. The health food fanatics just use fat people as an excuse.

[KnitShoni]

Things like trans fats have been made illegal because of fat people




I agree smokers cause alot of problems as well. Not as many though plus some fat people are also smokers doubling the negatives

Funny. I thought trans fats had been banned because they're unnecessary and increased risk of heart disease and wonky cholesterol levels. I still don't see how not having trans fats in foods makes them less tasty.

Are you actually, seriously saying smoking causes less problems than being fat?

[Red Panda]

Yeah, I still haven't figured out this one yet. Most restaurants don't remove fatty stuff from the menus, just add healthier stuff. Which restaurants do you go to that they remove unhealthy foods from the menu, Panda?

Things like trans fats have been made illegal because of fat people

But I digress. You seem to keep falling back on this arguement about fat people causing us all to pay higher health care rates. Why aren't you ripping on smokers? Don't they cause higher health care rates too?

I agree smokers cause alot of problems as well. Not as many though plus some fat people are also smokers doubling the negatives

[Plaidman]

Not even my mind Peppergirl? Me sad.

Well, with smokers, same with drinkers and other drug users. They clog the system too. Their's are a choice too.

[Peppergirl]

Closing my eyes won't change the fact that fat people take up tons of space and make health care rates rise and burden paramedics and all sorts of problems.

Ok, so answer me a question then - why aren't you all up-in-arms about smokers?

No, I'm not turning this into an anti-smoking rant...in fact, I quit smoking in January. Thank God I didn't gain much weight though, because it would be HORRIBLE if we lived in the same town and you had to see me.

But I digress. You seem to keep falling back on this arguement about fat people causing us all to pay higher health care rates. Why aren't you ripping on smokers? Don't they cause higher health care rates too?

Despite my snarkiness, I'm genuinely curious. It's interesting to me to get a feel for how your mind works, because I've never seen anything like it - seriously.

[KnitShoni]

Take away food from her fave restraunts.

Yeah, I still haven't figured out this one yet. Most restaurants don't remove fatty stuff from the menus, just add healthier stuff. Which restaurants do you go to that they remove unhealthy foods from the menu, Panda?

[Plaidman]

So if you're okay with walking out naked, semi naked or whatever, then a fat person doing the same thing across from you in full view won't be a problem. Right?

Or would we see a new thread from Panda? The one about the naked fat man showing his vertical smile when bending over to pick up the morning paper or whatever.

And btw the I'll just won't look argument doesn't wash. At times you're going to see things you just don't mean to see.

See, it's not the fact she has to /look/ at them. she admits she doesn't have to look at them. It's the fact they make her heathcare so expensive. Take away food from her fave restraunts. Make it so she has to *gasp* wait five second or so when she's behind them, rather then just wait her turn, or even ask them nicely to let her past.

[RavenStarr]

So if you're okay with walking out naked, semi naked or whatever, then a fat person doing the same thing across from you in full view won't be a problem. Right?

Or would we see a new thread from Panda? The one about the naked fat man showing his vertical smile when bending over to pick up the morning paper or whatever.

And btw the I'll just won't look argument doesn't wash. At times you're going to see things you just don't mean to see.

[KnitShoni]

Closing my eyes won't change the fact that fat people take up tons of space and make health care rates rise and burden paramedics and all sorts of problems.

And your neighbors closing their eyes won't change the fact that you're outside naked where it's possible other people's children can see you. Obviously, other people and their children don't want to see you. You don't get a pass on decency just because you're not fat.

[Red Panda]

Closing my eyes won't change the fact that fat people take up tons of space and make health care rates rise and burden paramedics and all sorts of problems.

[gremcint]

See I think the issue is that Red Panda is actually overweight herself and this is all some sort of messed up self hating denial which has been projected on fat people in general.

And as for the flawed logic she is a woman and we all know that female logic doesn't exist. I mean we're all just a bunch of stereoptypes.
















if you couldn't tell, that was a joke.


on a serious note, in regards to fat people YOU CAN CLOSE YOU FUCKING EYES, YOU CAN TURN YOUR HEAD AND YOU CAN DO ANY NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.

And btw this woman's son starts asking questions about naked fat woman across the street and the different body parts which stresses out the mother causing her to go into therapy, that's how this can negatively affect you.

[Anthony K. S.]

Why do they get to stomp on my right to decide what to wear when I am at home?

Contrary to what you seem to think, being at home and being in public are not mutually exclusive.

When you're standing on a balcony, in your backyard, or on the lawn in front of your house, in full view of other buildings and other people . . . Yes, you are on your own property, but you're still in public.

And people don't have an absolute right to wear whatever they want - especially if what they want to wear is nothing - when they are in public.

If a person wanted to stand naked on his/her front lawn, in full view of the street, sidewalk, and a dozen other homes, would you support that, too?